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Red Cap Fanuc Motors (late 1990's early 2000's) w/ LinuxCNC and Single Phase?
8 years 3 months ago #113325
by jmelson
Replied by jmelson on topic Red Cap Fanuc Motors (late 1990's early 2000's) w/ LinuxCNC and Single Phase?
Single phase is no problem. You can use a suitably-rated VFD to run the spindle motor. There should be no power loss for the spindle when using a VFD.
About power loss on the axis motors, if you are the guy who emailed me pictures of a motor label and some drives, the (Alpha) 12 motor (A06B-0143-B177#7008) motor is a pretty big one, 12 nm stall rating, and needs 43 A to deliver peak torque. The Pico Systems servo amps are rated at only 20 A peak, so you would get less than half the peak torque rating.
Jon
About power loss on the axis motors, if you are the guy who emailed me pictures of a motor label and some drives, the (Alpha) 12 motor (A06B-0143-B177#7008) motor is a pretty big one, 12 nm stall rating, and needs 43 A to deliver peak torque. The Pico Systems servo amps are rated at only 20 A peak, so you would get less than half the peak torque rating.
Jon
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8 years 3 months ago #113327
by jmelson
Replied by jmelson on topic Red Cap Fanuc Motors (late 1990's early 2000's) w/ LinuxCNC and Single Phase?
As for this optical thing, it is the connection between the CNC control and the servo amps (A06B-6096 series) that use optical communication.
The encoders used with this series are of the serial pulse coder style, using Fanuc's own proprietary protocol, but it is all electric.
(Just to set the record straight.)
Jon
The encoders used with this series are of the serial pulse coder style, using Fanuc's own proprietary protocol, but it is all electric.
(Just to set the record straight.)
Jon
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8 years 3 months ago #113594
by FDP
Replied by FDP on topic Red Cap Fanuc Motors (late 1990's early 2000's) w/ LinuxCNC and Single Phase?
Thanks Jon!
I'm a different guy (still waiting on pictures of the motors). It's good to hear that they aren't fiber optic!
I will get in touch once I get the motor photos (should be next week).
Kind Regards,
FDP
I'm a different guy (still waiting on pictures of the motors). It's good to hear that they aren't fiber optic!
I will get in touch once I get the motor photos (should be next week).
Kind Regards,
FDP
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8 years 3 months ago - 8 years 3 months ago #114077
by FDP
Replied by FDP on topic Red Cap Fanuc Motors (late 1990's early 2000's) w/ LinuxCNC and Single Phase?
It looks like the machine has a 21iMA control.
Last edit: 8 years 3 months ago by FDP. Reason: Replied to wrong person
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8 years 3 months ago - 8 years 3 months ago #114078
by FDP
Replied by FDP on topic Red Cap Fanuc Motors (late 1990's early 2000's) w/ LinuxCNC and Single Phase?
Hi Jon,
I just got pics in of the motors & control.
The control is a Fanuc 21iMA (Type A02B-0247-B545 from late 2000).
Two of the servo motors are model alpha 2/3000rpm from late 2000 (0.5kW cont. output), one is a model alpha 3/3000 from the same year (0.9kW cont. output).
The spindle motor is an alpha 1.5/15000 from the same year.
My understanding is that the 21-iMA control does not have axis drives that support the alpha i servo amps. The motors should have an amphenol connector on their encoders (didn't get a pic unfortunately).
Unfortunately I won't be able to inspect the electrical cabinet myself for a few weeks to get further info, although I may be able to get some more pictures if that helps.
Kind Regards,
FDP
I just got pics in of the motors & control.
The control is a Fanuc 21iMA (Type A02B-0247-B545 from late 2000).
Two of the servo motors are model alpha 2/3000rpm from late 2000 (0.5kW cont. output), one is a model alpha 3/3000 from the same year (0.9kW cont. output).
The spindle motor is an alpha 1.5/15000 from the same year.
My understanding is that the 21-iMA control does not have axis drives that support the alpha i servo amps. The motors should have an amphenol connector on their encoders (didn't get a pic unfortunately).
Unfortunately I won't be able to inspect the electrical cabinet myself for a few weeks to get further info, although I may be able to get some more pictures if that helps.
Kind Regards,
FDP
Last edit: 8 years 3 months ago by FDP. Reason: Added info
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8 years 3 months ago #114098
by jmelson
Replied by jmelson on topic Red Cap Fanuc Motors (late 1990's early 2000's) w/ LinuxCNC and Single Phase?
Without more info, I can't even tell whether the encoders are old style with classic ABZ and proprietary commutation, or serial pulse coders which are totally proprietary.
I think I (Pico Systems) have converters for both types (but need the model # to be sure). The motors should have an A06B-xxxx-xxxx part number, which should specify this. There MAY also be a label on the encoders, but many Fanuc motors do not have such a separate label on the outside.
Jon
I think I (Pico Systems) have converters for both types (but need the model # to be sure). The motors should have an A06B-xxxx-xxxx part number, which should specify this. There MAY also be a label on the encoders, but many Fanuc motors do not have such a separate label on the outside.
Jon
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