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10 years 10 months ago #66505 by Sergio
Hi Community!

I have a confusing problem with the calibration of my A Axis.
My setup:

1080oz Stepper and 1:5 gear ration realized with a chain (very strong and backlash free)
I found out that the Error has a system, but i can't realize the fault in the Setup.
So I hope that there is someone who can find it out or can give me tips.
I think it could be a software problem but I'm not sure.
I'm sure that i don't lost stepps on the motor.

To show the problem.:

G0 A360 --> turns 359° --> -1° offset
G0 A720--> turns 719° --> -1° offset
G0 A1080--> turns 1079,3° --> -0,7° offset
G0 A1440--> turns 1439,3° --> -0,7° offset
Now I turn back:
G0 A1080--> turns 1080 --> 0° offset
G0 A720 --> turns 720 --> 0° offset
G0 A360--> turns 360 --> 0° offset
G0 A0--> turns 0--> 0° offset

Next symptom:

At the Stepper config wizzard in the test panel for the A Axis:
I let the Axis run for about 1minute for each setting.
If i coose +180° the stepper is very accurate.
If i coose +-180° i got a offset.
It seems that the error is systematic but i can't figure out the cause or root.

So please, if there is someone who can dont hesitate.

THANK YOU!

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10 years 10 months ago #66509 by cncbasher
this is more to do with gear ratio than anything else, and stepper steps , in some cases not adding up to a divideable number
/360
Andy may have an idea

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10 years 10 months ago #66512 by Sergio
Hi Sarah!

Thank you for your reply.
What do you mean with : stepper steps , in some cases not adding up to a divideable number
/360
?
Should i post my setting and hardware to solve the problem?

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10 years 10 months ago #66513 by cncbasher
can you change the ratio ?
you need one that divides equally into 360

if you think that a 1:5 , if used as a straight line will give you 15.7in in one turn ,for example

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10 years 10 months ago #66516 by Sergio
Hi Sarah!

Yes i can change. I need to buy another gearwheel.
I made all by myself, so i can change.
I think I made a mistake in my description:
The ratio is 5:1. Five turns of my stepper = one turn on the A axis.
360/5=72° per turn.
I can't undestand the problem? Sorry I have not the best english skills.
pi x 5 = 15,7?

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10 years 10 months ago #66527 by Sergio
Hi again!

i was now on the machine to find out a little more about the Problem.
I made some tests with the "test axis window" and made this:

+20° no error
-20° error
+20° no error...
move to another Position:
+20° error
-20° no error
+20° error...

+-20° error if the rotation came form +
no error if the rotation came from -

It seems that the error happens with the change in the move direction, but not with the direction itself.
I played around with the timing setup but nothing changed my Problem.
I have rechecked the chain system, but i cant find anything wrong.
Any idea?
And please can you explain the point with "ratio should devide by 360"


Thank You!

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