Elite Group 651-M (V1.0) motherboard software CD

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06 Apr 2012 21:25 #19015 by Graham Symns
Hi All,
This is my first post so please be kind to me.
I've recently bought the above re-cycled motherboard and am looking for the CD-ROM for it.
The mother board is to build a P4 type PC to to drive the engraving machine as designed by Microcarve (CNCZONE..table top engraving machine)
The m/board and I was able to download the manua lfor it which, as it happens,is well written.
As is the case there is always something else to have before the main target can be attempted..in this case the setup CD-ROM.
If any one can either supply free or at a small cost a copy or an original of this I would be most appreciative.
Alternatively tell me where I might pursue the enquiry further.
I look forward to your kind help.
Regards Gaham

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07 Apr 2012 08:14 #19017 by ArcEye
Hi

Unless you are installing windoze, you don't need any drivers or setup CD.
The Redmond crew couldn't be arsed to support anything other than mainstream Intel, so insisted that manufacturers supply their own drivers, if they wanted to run windoze.

Any chipset used with P4 boards should be well supported by the Linux kernel.
I would install Linuxcnc from the 8.04 Live CD as 10.04 might well be too new for it.

If you still want drivers (which won't work with linux) google is your friend
www.motherboard.cz/driver/ is a start.

regards

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07 Apr 2012 10:48 #19018 by Graham Symns
Hi ArcEye,
Thanks for the reply.
I'll do as you suggest ....looks like the livecd dispense with all the Windows drama.
I'll gget back to you with the outcome of your advice.
Thanks again
Regards Graham

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09 Apr 2012 01:11 #19035 by Graham Symns
Hi Arceye,
I did as you suggested without doing anything else (like examine the BIOS and change as required)
except for using the CD ROM drive as the Master..no HD at this try out.
Hey Presto it all loaded up.
I need to get a HD .....do I set this up as a slave until I install Ubantu from the CD ROM?
Regards Graham

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09 Apr 2012 06:22 #19044 by ArcEye
Hi
That would probably lead to problems.

I would jumper the HDD as master on IDE0 and either put rhe CDROM as slave on that channel or it could be master on IDE1 if no other HDDs.

Then just set the boot order in BIOS to check the CDROM first ie a standard set up.

Glad it ran up 1st time, welcome to Linuxcnc

regards

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09 Apr 2012 21:30 #19064 by Graham Symns
Hi ArcEye,
Thanks for the advice...in the time between sending my last post I actually put my brain into gear and did what you have just advised!!
I am a bit wary of installing Ubuntu/EMC2 Ver 10.4 on this HD as it is only 4Gig.
Anyway thanks again
Regards Graham

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10 Apr 2012 06:08 - 15 Apr 2012 09:30 #19082 by ArcEye
Hi again,

I am a bit wary of installing Ubuntu/EMC2 Ver 10.4 on this HD as it is only 4Gig.


The HDD should be plenty for a basic install, but as I suggested earlier, I would install 8.04 on it not 10.04.

You can still upgrade to the latest Linuxcnc 2.5 release, I have done so on both my 8.04 workshop computers, replacing the development versions I was running.

I will be going into detail why in the next FAQ on Latency, but basically you will probably find that the kernel with 8.04 is more suited to your P4 single core processor machine.

You will probably need to go into BIOS and disable hyperthreading and power management options (if they exist) once it is installed to reduce the latency a bit, but other than that it hopefully will run fine.

If you have any particular problems, you always have the option of 10.04 to see if there is any improvement.

regards
Last edit: 15 Apr 2012 09:30 by ArcEye.

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12 Apr 2012 09:57 #19136 by Graham Symns
Hi ArcEye,

Thanks to your help I am able to report some progress installing 8.04 on the 4.3Gbyte drive
in my target PC.
The only flaw is that I am unable to load the EMC2 G-Code Quick reference.
This CD will load on my main computer and can load this reference.
On my target PC when this is selected I get an error message as below.

" ERROR "
" Could not launch menu item "
" Failed to execute child process "/usr/x-www-browser "
" (no such file or directory ) "
Other than that all else seems, at first glance, seems to work.

I bought a larger HDD (Seagate Barracuda 80Gbyte drive) while I was shopping
and I can install 8.04 right to the point that installation is complete and calls for a reboot.
After the reboot the PC stops at :
"GRUB loading stage1.5READ ERROR "
and hangs up .

Latency seems to be quite good at 4904/6779 ns respectively

I hope that you will be able to help with these bothers.

Regards Graham

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12 Apr 2012 10:03 #19137 by Graham Symns
Hi ArcEye,

The latency numbers should be
Servo max jitter = 6376nS
Base thread = 6779nS
They are not the result of any exhaustive testing but more as a first glance snap-shot.

Regards Graham

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12 Apr 2012 11:54 #19140 by ArcEye
Hi

I'm a little confused, have you actually installed 8.04 on the 4GB HDD and it worked fine, except that you could not launch the quick G Code guide?
The reason that will not launch is x-www-browser is presumably not set or set to a browser you don't have installed.

www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/set-the-d...om-the-command-line/

The reasons why the larger drive will not reboot could be many fold.
MBR screwed up by install process
ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8407314

HDD incorrectly jumpered and / or clashing with another drive
www.linuxforums.org/forum/suse-linux/376...vd-fixed-solved.html

If you can't resolve that one, stick with the 4GB one.
Give those latency figures a good test, really stretching them with other processes running too
www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/compo...ew&catid=18&id=19022

They look very good at present but you may find they increase somewhat when loaded

regards

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