Holes have a taper

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2 years 1 week ago #312663 by timo
Replied by timo on topic Holes have a taper
The cutter is not tapered I hope :-)
Maybe your cutter is not as sharp at the tip as it is on the higher part.
The tip is seeing more cutting action and gets dull earlier.

I would try with another cutter again, to see if the cutter is involved in the problem.

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2 years 1 week ago #312664 by sajurcaju
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I have cut holes in my old spoilboard, and also on a piece of 3/4" attached on top of the old spoilboard. Same result, so I don't think it's a taper in the Z axis. I'll do another check with an indicator, raising and lowering z while measuring side position.

I'm using a small telescoping gauge and micrometer to measure the holes, also I have a parallel plug gauge (i.e. the precision round dogs). The holes are clearly tapered.

Good ideas, I'll recheck Z for taper in the axis motion.

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2 years 1 week ago #312665 by sajurcaju
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Timo, I did look at my cutter edge. Nothing I could see (no glints), but when I felt the edge there was a small difference in texture at the end. I had a new bit, still in it's tube and tried it. Same result.

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2 years 1 week ago #312669 by sajurcaju
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I've improved the taper from about 8 thou to 5 thou by reducing acceleration and feed rate. I was at 50 ips^2 and changed to 20, feed from 100 ipm to 30 ipm. Further reductions did not help.
I also made 15 holes, all the same gcode. I didn't measure every hole, but they vary by a few thou. I've remeasured holes and get within one thou.
I think I'm as close as my machine will get. The 15 holes vary from too tight (which got better with multiple insertions) to OK, I just wish it was better. I'm going with what I've got.
Thanks for the ideas people!
The following user(s) said Thank You: tommylight

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2 years 1 week ago #312972 by Deckerjwd
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you maybe reaching the tolerance that MDF can hold, while MDF is More Stable than other woods it still changes shape massively compared to metals and some plastics. i will try to run some holes on my phantom s4. it does many small move like your, I suspect I will get the similar results as you. that would mean tool deflection and/or material movement

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2 years 1 week ago #312974 by sajurcaju
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Well that I hadn't thought of. I'll be very interested in your results.

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