LinuxCNC on Debian 10 Buster quick and easy install

Clive S wrote:

andypugh wrote: That's weird. And frankly I don't know what I can do about that, as this is only a slightly-tweaked standard Debian installer.

I am just downloading it now so will try it in the morning and report back

I used Ethcher to make the USB stick.

Live install works as expected and can ping my Naz from it.

Graphical install hung at configure network . about 3 mins in

Install hung at configure network . about 3 mins in

Then I tried unplugging the network cable then it let me carry on when it got to the DHCP stuff .
I re-plugged the network cable and it all went fine and installed completely

Edit: It does not recognise my usb dongle that has worked on all previous installs

And things like screen shot seem to be missing. Also I did not see an option for auto login

Tested with another USB stick, everything works properly and does not ask for root password.
-Taking screenshots should be on the accessories menu,
-If having trouble with WiFi, check the first post.
P.S.
Also edited the above posts to reflect the current results.

python-gtksourceview2_2.10.1-3_amd64.deb is no longer in sid
bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=947854

Added :
deb ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stretch main non-free contrib
to /etc/apt/sources.list and did:
$ apt-get install -t stretch python-gtksourceview2

Not finding where the hostmot2 debian package is? - appears to need a special source?

Best would be if someone can post the contents of sources.list of the ISO for me?

How different is 2.8 from 2.9? (for someone running mesa )

(New to linuxcnc - old time Debian user )

It works

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Hostmot2 firmware can be downloaded form the www.Mesanet.com website for their cards, but it is not needed for most of the cards as they have it in a flash memory, but they are needed if there is a need to change the existing internal configuration of those cards.
Is this regarding this:

andypugh wrote:

seuchato wrote: Off curse I had to specify a root passwd, so I had to remove all the sudo references in your script.

It is important _not_ to specify a root password in the Debian installer as this disables sudo for all users.

LinuxCNC relies on setuid, so needs sudo.

This is mentioned briefly in the Buster install notes:
linuxcnc.org/docs/2.8/html/getting-start...th_preempt_rt_kernel

Hi Andy
Will get anther pc to play with your iso. The reference you provide does a lot of sudo stuff. That is while installing. As menstioned. I could get around the sudo stuff easily, logging in a terminal and change to root, then running all commands without the preceeding sudo. I do run a number of servers and have come to convince myself, a root passwd is helpful. Also, I can run axis and the latency tests without any problems as a different user.
So: where after installng LinuxCNC does need sudo?

Greez
chris

PS: Great work! Thanks a ton!

A bit misleading on:
linuxcnc.org/docs/2.8/html/getting-start...th_preempt_rt_kernel
This isn't exactly true:
"Warning Do not enter a root password, if you do sudo is disabled and you won’t be able to complete the following steps."

Non of those steps require sudo. They work just fine with a root password - just become root and leave out the sudo (or you might want to configure sudo so you still use it for GUI applications.)
Easy to set up - just make a file (replace "user" with your user name) /etc/sudoers.d/local with :

Sudo confuses new Linux users - it was a way to give usually root like permissions to people with out giving them THE root password. Sudo was mostly for multiuser systems - or more typical today - an X-user that needs root while running GUI apps. ( There are GUI things that I use sudo for - like a GUI editor - or meld that might need root powers - most applications know how to drop excess privileges ).

But most often - I don't need to mess with sudo if I can just become root and work from a command-line editor.

If the main user has sudo power (he has root - simple as $sudo passwd ) the system is vulnerable if it is connected to a LAN that has internet connectivity. The bad guys do try to log in as root - but they also try every other name you can think of - 24/7 - better to have root behind a very long password or ssh-key - Windoze machines are the usual attack source - once infected with some click bait they will try the locks on every LAN host they can. (OT: long passwords matter - especially if you can remember them - use something like alongphraseisnice - but a bit longer - people don't remember symbols/caps/numbers and thus write them down - thus not secure). Some of the attacks coming out of windoze boxes only crash the Linux boxes (not good if you are running a job). One of the reasons to use more recent kernels. Really hard to explain just how good the bad guys have gotten at breaking in.

Hope this is helpful - I think some of the people here are fairly new to Liunx.. I've been running Linux firewalls/servers and my personal desktop from back in 1999-2000.