Arc OK intermitent issues on torch fire

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5 years 10 months ago - 5 years 10 months ago #191365 by luftlupus
Hey guys i have an issue when starting a cut, the plasma goes to arc then immediately get "valid arc lost program paused" This seems to only happen around 40% of the time from what i have been seeing and i am at a loss for what could be causing this. I have a short video of what happens. video link >


Then the less common issue is the plasma goes to start an arc, It blows through the metal no issue but its like its not detecting its cut through and blown the metal away then proceeds to try a second arc start still not working then it pauses because its already tried to establish the arc the required amount of times. video link >


The picture has both the faults.

I am running a 7i76/6i25 THCAD10, latest version of plasmaC

Any advice would be amazing.
Last edit: 5 years 10 months ago by luftlupus.

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5 years 10 months ago #191366 by snowgoer540
A few questions:

1. What brand plasma (looks like a hypertherm)
2. What mode are you using?
3. Actually can you just post a backup of your config? Click backup on the config tab, it'll drop it into your home folder and you can post it here in the forum.
4. For torch-on do you use a mechanical relay of a solid state one?
5. Have you debounced your arc-ok input?

One of the most helpful things will be number 3.
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5 years 10 months ago #191369 by luftlupus

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File Name: plas_v0.185.tar.gz
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> Machine is jasic unimig razorcut45
> Using Mode 1
> not sure on the relay
> and i have not touched debounce settings as of yet

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5 years 10 months ago - 5 years 10 months ago #191372 by snowgoer540

luftlupus wrote:

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File Name: plas_v0.185.tar.gz
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> Machine is jasic unimig razorcut45
> Using Mode 1
> not sure on the relay
> and i have not touched debounce settings as of yet


The first thing I see that is odd to me is your torch-on pin.

You have:
Code:
net plasmac:torch-on => hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.spinena

I run the same setup (5i25 and 7i76), here is my torch on:
Code:
net plasmac:torch-on => hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.output-00

I'm fairly certain what you have is not correct. I believe spinena has to do with vfd's, spindles, etc.
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5 years 10 months ago #191374 by snowgoer540
Also, if I were you, I would debounce the arc-ok input assuming it is a mechanical relay from your plasma cutter. The following changes will give you 5 servo-thread counts of deounce (if your servo-thread period is 1mS, then a 5mS debounce). This may (or may not) save you some headaches later.

Edit your plas_connections.hal file and make the following changes:



Change:
Code:
loadrt debounce cfg=3
To:
Code:
loadrt debounce cfg=3,1


Add:
Code:
setp debounce.1.delay 5 addf debounce.1 servo-thread



Change:
Code:
net plasmac:arc-ok-in hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.input-10 => plasmac.arc-ok-in
To:
Code:
net plasmac:arc-ok-in hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.input-10 => debounce.1.0.in net plasmac:debounced-arc-ok debounce.1.0.out => plasmac.arc-ok-in

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5 years 10 months ago #191375 by luftlupus

snowgoer540 wrote:

luftlupus wrote:

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File Name: plas_v0.185.tar.gz
File Size:14.64 KB


> Machine is jasic unimig razorcut45
> Using Mode 1
> not sure on the relay
> and i have not touched debounce settings as of yet


The first thing I see that is odd to me is your torch-on pin.

You have:
Code:
net plasmac:torch-on => hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.spinena

I run the same setup (5i25 and 7i76), here is my torch on:
Code:
net plasmac:torch-on => hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.output-00

I'm fairly certain what you have is not correct. I believe spinena has to do with vfd's, spindles, etc.


i was told by PCW to wire it that way on the spinena and someothers do it on different pins also.
ill also check into those settings cheers

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