vibration at lowspeed.

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1 year 2 months ago - 1 year 2 months ago #332937 by heaven
I'm developing a feature that is called "admittance control", it's a method to control motor base on external force.
The system workflow is:

External force (from ft sensor)-> admittance module (100Hz update rate) -->joint cmd--> simple_tp/limit3 (1Khz) -> ethercat -> driver motor

The admittance module will convert external force to joint-cmd to control motor. Everything look fine except vibration at low speed like this chart

 

The velocity input look fine but the output velocity-cmd (derivative from position) is not smooth at low speed. Is this problem come from simple_tp/limit3 component? I look at linuxcnc code note and see cubic interpolator is using. Should i rewrite a cubic interpolator to replace simple_tp/limit3 or try to increase admittance update rate to 1 Khz and skip interpolator?
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1 year 2 months ago #332942 by rodw
Replied by rodw on topic vibration at lowspeed.
Are you using steppers or servos?
It's possible you are observing  low speed stepper harmonics. If that's the case, the solution would be to alter the motor gearing to avoid low motor speeds in the harmonics range.
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1 year 2 months ago #332946 by heaven
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i'm using servos, i don't think it comes from the motor side because jogging from LinuxCNC is still smooth. Just look at the figures i attached, the input velocity before the simple_tp module is still smooth but the output velocity from this module is not.
 

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1 year 2 months ago #332948 by Hakan
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Something that happens every 100 ms it seems like.
You can see a small change or step in joint_vel and the servos are responding to that. At least where the main spikes are.
So what are you doing every 100 ms?
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1 year 2 months ago - 1 year 2 months ago #332956 by heaven
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It's the admittance module update rate that will update new position cmd
I'm wrong, admittance update rate is 10ms not 100ms.
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1 year 2 months ago #332958 by Hakan
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I would think a faster update rate will decrease the steps.
You will get more steps but less in magnitude.
I guess you have some gain parameter between force and position.
Maybe try higher gain at low speeds? Since it seems to be a bit off, I mean.
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