halui.mdi-command-NN pins not showing up

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31 Aug 2025 19:37 #334198 by JT
Dunno if this is a clue or not but <commandline>:0: halui exited without becoming ready seems odd.
LINUXCNC - 2.9.0~pre1+git20230208.f1270d6ed7
Machine configuration directory is '/home/john/linuxcnc/configs/flex_examples/starters/Lathe'
Machine configuration file is 'lathe.ini'
Starting LinuxCNC...
<commandline>:0: halui exited without becoming ready
linuxcnc TPMOD=tpmod HOMEMOD=homemod EMCMOT=motmod
Note: Using POSIX realtime
Found file(REL): ./main.hal

identityKinematicsSetup: coordinates:AZ
   Joint 0 ==> Axis A
   Joint 1 ==> Axis Z
identityKinematicsSetup: Recommend: kinstype=both

JT

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31 Aug 2025 19:39 #334199 by JT
That line does not show up if the axes are all linear.

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31 Aug 2025 21:34 #334201 by xunil
Replied by xunil on topic halui.mdi-command-NN pins not showing up
Not sure this will shed any more light, but I've attached the output from starting LinuxCNC on my actual machine.  I get that 'halui exited without becoming ready' message too.  One other thing I noticed is that the initial messages about kinematics has "coordinates:AZ" but later on the jog order is "ZA".  Is there some requirement that the first axis be linear?  I don't think it would hurt anything for my machine to reorder things so joint 0 was linear and joint 1 was angular.  Just kind of fumbling in the dark here for ideas.

 

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02 Sep 2025 12:19 #334261 by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic halui.mdi-command-NN pins not showing up
Looking through halui.cc I don't see anything that would obviously fail if joint 0 is angular.
But as an experiment I would be tempted to switch COORDINATES to ZA to see if anything changes.

It might be instructive to see which halui pins exist, to give some indication on where the component load fails:

github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/blob/master...mc/usr_intf/halui.cc

Assuming that linuxcnc is "alive" "halcmd show pin halui" should give us a pin list to look at.

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02 Sep 2025 14:39 #334272 by JT
AZ
john@cave:~$ halcmd show pin halui
Component Pins:
Owner   Type  Dir         Value  Name
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.axis.a.is-selected
    10  float OUT             0  halui.axis.a.pos-commanded
    10  float OUT             0  halui.axis.a.pos-feedback
    10  float OUT             0  halui.axis.a.pos-relative
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.axis.z.is-selected
    10  float OUT             0  halui.axis.z.pos-commanded
    10  float OUT             0  halui.axis.z.pos-feedback
    10  float OUT             0  halui.axis.z.pos-relative
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.estop.is-activated
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.flood.is-on
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.0.has-fault
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.0.is-homed
    10  bit   OUT          TRUE  halui.joint.0.is-selected
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.0.on-hard-max-limit
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.0.on-hard-min-limit
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.0.on-soft-max-limit
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.0.on-soft-min-limit
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.0.override-limits
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.1.has-fault
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.1.is-homed
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.1.is-selected
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.1.on-hard-max-limit
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.1.on-hard-min-limit
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.1.on-soft-max-limit
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.1.on-soft-min-limit
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.1.override-limits
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.selected.has-fault
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.selected.is-homed
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.selected.on-hard-max-limit
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.selected.on-hard-min-limit
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.selected.on-soft-max-limit
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.selected.on-soft-min-limit
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.selected.override-limits
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.lube.is-on
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.machine.is-on
    10  float OUT             0  halui.machine.units-per-mm
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.mist.is-on
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.mode.is-auto
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.mode.is-joint
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.mode.is-manual
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.mode.is-mdi
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.mode.is-teleop
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.program.block-delete.is-on
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.program.is-idle
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.program.is-paused
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.program.is-running
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.program.optional-stop.is-on
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.spindle.0.brake-is-on
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.spindle.0.brake-off
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.spindle.0.brake-on
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.spindle.0.decrease
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.spindle.0.forward
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.spindle.0.increase
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.spindle.0.is-on
    10  bit   IN           TRUE  halui.spindle.0.override.count-enable
    10  s32   IN              0  halui.spindle.0.override.counts
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.spindle.0.override.decrease
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.spindle.0.override.direct-value
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.spindle.0.override.increase
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.spindle.0.override.reset
    10  float IN              0  halui.spindle.0.override.scale
    10  float OUT             0  halui.spindle.0.override.value
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.spindle.0.reverse
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.spindle.0.runs-backward
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.spindle.0.runs-forward
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.spindle.0.start
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.spindle.0.stop

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02 Sep 2025 14:41 #334273 by JT
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john@cave:~$ halcmd show pin halui
Component Pins:
Owner   Type  Dir         Value  Name
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.abort
    10  float IN              0  halui.axis.a.analog
    10  float IN              0  halui.axis.a.increment
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.a.increment-minus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.a.increment-plus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.a.minus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.a.plus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.a.select
    10  float IN              0  halui.axis.b.analog
    10  float IN              0  halui.axis.b.increment
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.b.increment-minus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.b.increment-plus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.b.minus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.b.plus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.b.select
    10  float IN              0  halui.axis.c.analog
    10  float IN              0  halui.axis.c.increment
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.c.increment-minus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.c.increment-plus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.c.minus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.c.plus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.c.select
    10  float IN            0.2  halui.axis.jog-deadband
    10  float IN              0  halui.axis.jog-speed
    10  u32   OUT    0x00000000  halui.axis.selected
    10  float IN              0  halui.axis.selected.increment
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.selected.increment-minus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.selected.increment-plus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.selected.minus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.selected.plus
    10  float IN              0  halui.axis.u.analog
    10  float IN              0  halui.axis.u.increment
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.u.increment-minus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.u.increment-plus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.u.minus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.u.plus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.u.select
    10  float IN              0  halui.axis.v.analog
    10  float IN              0  halui.axis.v.increment
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.v.increment-minus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.v.increment-plus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.v.minus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.v.plus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.v.select
    10  float IN              0  halui.axis.w.analog
    10  float IN              0  halui.axis.w.increment
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.w.increment-minus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.w.increment-plus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.w.minus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.w.plus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.w.select
    10  float IN              0  halui.axis.x.analog
    10  float IN              0  halui.axis.x.increment
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.x.increment-minus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.x.increment-plus
    10  bit   OUT          TRUE  halui.axis.x.is-selected
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.x.minus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.x.plus
    10  float OUT             0  halui.axis.x.pos-commanded
    10  float OUT             0  halui.axis.x.pos-feedback
    10  float OUT             0  halui.axis.x.pos-relative
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.x.select
    10  float IN              0  halui.axis.y.analog
    10  float IN              0  halui.axis.y.increment
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.y.increment-minus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.y.increment-plus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.y.minus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.y.plus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.y.select
    10  float IN              0  halui.axis.z.analog
    10  float IN              0  halui.axis.z.increment
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.z.increment-minus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.z.increment-plus
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.axis.z.is-selected
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.z.minus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.z.plus
    10  float OUT             0  halui.axis.z.pos-commanded
    10  float OUT             0  halui.axis.z.pos-feedback
    10  float OUT             0  halui.axis.z.pos-relative
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.axis.z.select
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.estop.activate
    10  bit   OUT          TRUE  halui.estop.is-activated
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.estop.reset
    10  bit   IN           TRUE  halui.feed-override.count-enable
    10  s32   IN              0  halui.feed-override.counts
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.feed-override.decrease
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.feed-override.direct-value
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.feed-override.increase
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.feed-override.reset
    10  float IN            0.1  halui.feed-override.scale
    10  float OUT             1  halui.feed-override.value
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.flood.is-on
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.flood.off
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.flood.on
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.home-all
    10  float IN              0  halui.joint.0.analog
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.0.has-fault
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.joint.0.home
    10  float IN              0  halui.joint.0.increment
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.joint.0.increment-minus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.joint.0.increment-plus
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.0.is-homed
    10  bit   OUT          TRUE  halui.joint.0.is-selected
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.joint.0.minus
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.0.on-hard-max-limit
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.0.on-hard-min-limit
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.0.on-soft-max-limit
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.0.on-soft-min-limit
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.0.override-limits
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.joint.0.plus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.joint.0.select
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.joint.0.unhome
    10  float IN              0  halui.joint.1.analog
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.1.has-fault
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.joint.1.home
    10  float IN              0  halui.joint.1.increment
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.joint.1.increment-minus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.joint.1.increment-plus
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.1.is-homed
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.1.is-selected
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.joint.1.minus
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.1.on-hard-max-limit
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.1.on-hard-min-limit
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.1.on-soft-max-limit
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.1.on-soft-min-limit
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.1.override-limits
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.joint.1.plus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.joint.1.select
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.joint.1.unhome
    10  float IN            0.2  halui.joint.jog-deadband
    10  float IN              0  halui.joint.jog-speed
    10  u32   OUT    0x00000000  halui.joint.selected
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.selected.has-fault
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.joint.selected.home
    10  float IN              0  halui.joint.selected.increment
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.joint.selected.increment-minus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.joint.selected.increment-plus
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.selected.is-homed
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.joint.selected.minus
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.selected.on-hard-max-limit
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.selected.on-hard-min-limit
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.selected.on-soft-max-limit
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.selected.on-soft-min-limit
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.joint.selected.override-limits
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.joint.selected.plus
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.joint.selected.unhome
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.lube.is-on
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.lube.off
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.lube.on
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.machine.is-on
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.machine.off
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.machine.on
    10  float OUT    0.03937008  halui.machine.units-per-mm
    10  bit   IN           TRUE  halui.max-velocity.count-enable
    10  s32   IN              0  halui.max-velocity.counts
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.max-velocity.decrease
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.max-velocity.direct-value
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.max-velocity.increase
    10  float IN              0  halui.max-velocity.scale
    10  float OUT             1  halui.max-velocity.value
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.mist.is-on
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.mist.off
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.mist.on
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.mode.auto
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.mode.is-auto
    10  bit   OUT          TRUE  halui.mode.is-joint
    10  bit   OUT          TRUE  halui.mode.is-manual
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.mode.is-mdi
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.mode.is-teleop
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.mode.joint
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.mode.manual
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.mode.mdi
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.mode.teleop
    10  bit   OUT          TRUE  halui.program.block-delete.is-on
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.program.block-delete.off
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.program.block-delete.on
    10  bit   OUT          TRUE  halui.program.is-idle
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.program.is-paused
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.program.is-running
    10  bit   OUT          TRUE  halui.program.optional-stop.is-on
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.program.optional-stop.off
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.program.optional-stop.on
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.program.pause
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.program.resume
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.program.run
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.program.step
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.program.stop
    10  bit   IN           TRUE  halui.rapid-override.count-enable
    10  s32   IN              0  halui.rapid-override.counts
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.rapid-override.decrease
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.rapid-override.direct-value
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.rapid-override.increase
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.rapid-override.reset
    10  float IN            0.1  halui.rapid-override.scale
    10  float OUT             1  halui.rapid-override.value
    10  bit   OUT          TRUE  halui.spindle.0.brake-is-on
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.spindle.0.brake-off
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.spindle.0.brake-on
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.spindle.0.decrease
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.spindle.0.forward
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.spindle.0.increase
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.spindle.0.is-on
    10  bit   IN           TRUE  halui.spindle.0.override.count-enable
    10  s32   IN              0  halui.spindle.0.override.counts
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.spindle.0.override.decrease
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.spindle.0.override.direct-value
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.spindle.0.override.increase
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.spindle.0.override.reset
    10  float IN            0.1  halui.spindle.0.override.scale
    10  float OUT             1  halui.spindle.0.override.value
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.spindle.0.reverse
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.spindle.0.runs-backward
    10  bit   OUT         FALSE  halui.spindle.0.runs-forward
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.spindle.0.start
    10  bit   IN          FALSE  halui.spindle.0.stop
    10  float OUT             0  halui.tool.diameter
    10  float OUT             0  halui.tool.length_offset.a
    10  float OUT             0  halui.tool.length_offset.b
    10  float OUT             0  halui.tool.length_offset.c
    10  float OUT             0  halui.tool.length_offset.u
    10  float OUT             0  halui.tool.length_offset.v
    10  float OUT             0  halui.tool.length_offset.w
    10  float OUT             0  halui.tool.length_offset.x
    10  float OUT             0  halui.tool.length_offset.y
    10  float OUT             0  halui.tool.length_offset.z
    10  u32   OUT    0x00000000  halui.tool.number

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02 Sep 2025 15:28 - 02 Sep 2025 17:10 #334278 by Aciera
Replied by Aciera on topic halui.mdi-command-NN pins not showing up
I gather that the 'XZ' config is the one that works, still seems odd that this would create the whole set of 'halui.axis.[x,y,z,a,b,c,u,v,w].*' pins instead of just the expected X and Z axes.

[edit]
Just checked the usual 'axis.ini' on master and it looks like halui creates 'axis' pins for all nine axes even if only 'X', 'Y' and 'Z' are configured. That does not look right to me. Not sure if that is related to the issue at hand though.
 

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changing this section:
github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/blob/master...r_intf/halui.cc#L873

to this avoids the creation of pins for unconfigured axes:
    for (axis_num = 0; axis_num < EMCMOT_MAX_AXIS; axis_num++) {
        if ( !(axis_mask & (1 << axis_num)) ) { continue; }
        char c = "xyzabcuvw"[axis_num];
        retval =  hal_pin_bit_newf(HAL_IN, &(halui_data->axis_nr_select[axis_num]), comp_id, "halui.axis.%c.select", c);
        if (retval < 0) return retval;
        retval =  hal_pin_bit_newf(HAL_IN, &(halui_data->ajog_plus[axis_num]), comp_id, "halui.axis.%c.plus", c);
        if (retval < 0) return retval;
        retval =  hal_pin_bit_newf(HAL_IN, &(halui_data->ajog_minus[axis_num]), comp_id, "halui.axis.%c.minus", c);
        if (retval < 0) return retval;
        retval =  hal_pin_float_newf(HAL_IN, &(halui_data->ajog_analog[axis_num]), comp_id, "halui.axis.%c.analog", c);
        if (retval < 0) return retval;
        retval =  hal_pin_float_newf(HAL_IN, &(halui_data->ajog_increment[axis_num]), comp_id, "halui.axis.%c.increment", c);
        if (retval < 0) return retval;
        retval =  hal_pin_bit_newf(HAL_IN, &(halui_data->ajog_increment_plus[axis_num]), comp_id, "halui.axis.%c.increment-plus", c);
        if (retval < 0) return retval;
        retval =  hal_pin_bit_newf(HAL_IN, &(halui_data->ajog_increment_minus[axis_num]), comp_id, "halui.axis.%c.increment-minus", c);
        if (retval < 0) return retval;
    }

This seems not related to the issue discussed here though.
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02 Sep 2025 16:54 #334282 by JT
Yes, XZ does create the mdi pin and AZ does not.

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02 Sep 2025 17:24 - 02 Sep 2025 17:43 #334284 by Aciera
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Another test:
AX works :
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While AZ does not:

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YZ also doesn't work:
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02 Sep 2025 17:38 - 02 Sep 2025 17:50 #334286 by Aciera
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It seems to fail here:
github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/blob/master...r_intf/halui.cc#L710

    *halui_data->axis_is_selected[0] = 1;


Not sure but it looks like this line fails if there is no 'X' axis configured as it wants to maybe select the first item in the list [x,y,z,a,b,c,u,v,w]?
Last edit: 02 Sep 2025 17:50 by Aciera.

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