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Small victory in the war against the Cincinnati cinturn 12u
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4 years 5 days ago #255255
by smc.collins
ORRRR
Could I pay one of you $1000 to handle this for me ? I really just don't have time anymore to continue with this path of difficulty. My time is too valuable. It's not entitlement to offer to PAY someone for a service. I value your time, let's make a mutually beneficial arrangement. I pay someone for their expertise and knowledge, my machine gets making parts.
Replied by smc.collins on topic Small victory in the war against the Cincinnati cinturn 12u
I am happy to PAY CASH MONEY to have the work done, I am under time constraints. I have said that NUMEROUS TIMES. DO you want $$ ? I will pay it. If I cannot find a solution by the end of the weekend I am calling centroid ordering their oak controler ponying up the $4k they want for the hardware/software machine configuration.
Manual states " use terminal" nobody want's to use terminal but die hard linux users and programmers. I'm like most people, I just want my machines to work, without having to write a thesis
Sadly, the fact that you want a nice GUI for your toolchanger configuration doesn't make one magically appear. (You are obviously very welcome to write one yourself and share it!)
Basically, treat me as if I am a monkey who eats a banana with his feet and slings poop on the wall. Seriously. and RTFM is not a viable or helpful answer, the manual is written in a way that assumes that a person knows linux and EMC very well.
So in other words, you want someone to read the manual for you, figure out how everything applies to your specific machine, and give you step-by-step instructions so you don't have to think? Drop the entitled attitude. Seriously. It's okay to ask for help, obviously, but don't assume by default that people will do the work for you.
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ORRRR
Could I pay one of you $1000 to handle this for me ? I really just don't have time anymore to continue with this path of difficulty. My time is too valuable. It's not entitlement to offer to PAY someone for a service. I value your time, let's make a mutually beneficial arrangement. I pay someone for their expertise and knowledge, my machine gets making parts.
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4 years 5 days ago #255257
by andypugh
In there is a directory called "configs" and in there is the configuration directory for your machine. It consists of an INI file which specifies all the things that the system needs to know. That INI file will have a [HAL] section where one or more HALFILES are specified.
You need to add the HAL commands that I have suggested to one of the HAL files. (or, of you want, to a new one, which can be added to the HALFILE list.)
It might help to read this doc to learn what a HAL file is, and does:
linuxcnc.org/docs/stable/html/hal/intro.html
I can't be much less vague at this point, as nobody knows what is in your config files (not even you, it seems?)
Attach the HAL and INI files from that directory to a post here and we will be able to be more specific.
Replied by andypugh on topic Small victory in the war against the Cincinnati cinturn 12u
In your home directory on the controller PC is a directory called "linuxcnc"The question I keep asking is, put what specifically into what file ? Copy the contents of the carousel comp into the hal file ? copy what you posted ?.
In there is a directory called "configs" and in there is the configuration directory for your machine. It consists of an INI file which specifies all the things that the system needs to know. That INI file will have a [HAL] section where one or more HALFILES are specified.
You need to add the HAL commands that I have suggested to one of the HAL files. (or, of you want, to a new one, which can be added to the HALFILE list.)
It might help to read this doc to learn what a HAL file is, and does:
linuxcnc.org/docs/stable/html/hal/intro.html
I can't be much less vague at this point, as nobody knows what is in your config files (not even you, it seems?)
Attach the HAL and INI files from that directory to a post here and we will be able to be more specific.
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4 years 5 days ago #255288
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Replied by smc.collins on topic Small victory in the war against the Cincinnati cinturn 12u
i couldn't locate that hal page, and i kept searching the index, clearly makes more sense now. So i see 2 example hal files in my config folder.
rename 1 of them turret.hal, add signals an pins erc.
got it. I'm going to add a encoder run to the turret, i think it's capable of having more than 6 positions, I'll know more tomorrow, for now, the current switch array will do.
BTW the $1000 offer stands for the configuration work, or resolvers etc. I'm serious about paying for time. I'm swamped and i need it done asap
rename 1 of them turret.hal, add signals an pins erc.
got it. I'm going to add a encoder run to the turret, i think it's capable of having more than 6 positions, I'll know more tomorrow, for now, the current switch array will do.
BTW the $1000 offer stands for the configuration work, or resolvers etc. I'm serious about paying for time. I'm swamped and i need it done asap
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4 years 5 days ago #255291
by andypugh
Actually, keep things separate for the moment, and create a new file in a text editor (geany is the one that LinuxCNC ships with, in the "development" menu) and add it's filename as a new HALFILE= entry in the ini file.
Are your motor and clamp relays wired back to LinuxCNC yet?
I do this for a hobby, and refuse to involve money.
Replied by andypugh on topic Small victory in the war against the Cincinnati cinturn 12u
i couldn't locate that hal page, and i kept searching the index, clearly makes more sense now. So i see 2 example hal files in my config folder.
rename 1 of them turret.hal, add signals an pins erc.
Actually, keep things separate for the moment, and create a new file in a text editor (geany is the one that LinuxCNC ships with, in the "development" menu) and add it's filename as a new HALFILE= entry in the ini file.
Are your motor and clamp relays wired back to LinuxCNC yet?
BTW the $1000 offer stands for the configuration work, or resolvers etc. I'm serious about paying for time. I'm swamped and i need it done asap
I do this for a hobby, and refuse to involve money.
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4 years 4 days ago - 4 years 4 days ago #255351
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Replied by smc.collins on topic Small victory in the war against the Cincinnati cinturn 12u
They are wired back to linux CNC but one of the switches is missing from the run of cables, not sure why but everything with this lathe has been a mess.
should I copy and paste all the availble commands from the carousel hal file ? or just the ones I need ? do I need to put any null statements // or other type of commenting ? I like to comment stuff so is that like typical c/c++ where you use a // denote a comment or is there something else ???
should I put my C axis configuration in it's own hal file as well ? or in the main hal file ?
Also, I still don't understand why setting the spindle to pwm gen 5 is not creating a voltage output to it in the hal file.
attached, these are clones I have on a VM, but everything is identical. I have not wired up much outside of the basic items so far. If you need to move pins around use whichever you like I can move the IO on my relay cars easily.
should I copy and paste all the availble commands from the carousel hal file ? or just the ones I need ? do I need to put any null statements // or other type of commenting ? I like to comment stuff so is that like typical c/c++ where you use a // denote a comment or is there something else ???
should I put my C axis configuration in it's own hal file as well ? or in the main hal file ?
Also, I still don't understand why setting the spindle to pwm gen 5 is not creating a voltage output to it in the hal file.
attached, these are clones I have on a VM, but everything is identical. I have not wired up much outside of the basic items so far. If you need to move pins around use whichever you like I can move the IO on my relay cars easily.
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3 years 11 months ago - 3 years 11 months ago #255808
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Replied by smc.collins on topic Small victory in the war against the Cincinnati cinturn 12u
Alright, so I have been injesting hal documentation for a few days , now my brain feels mushy, ontop of having a work project that is truly driving me bananas, I cannot wait until I can get rid my day job and really focus on cnc top to bottom. 30 yrs of nonsense, I am so done with it.
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So I am a bit mixed about where speicifically I am supposed to put the calls for
loadrt or load component etc, is that in the main hal file or in the custom files ? I know I can put the he custom hal configuis along side, but calling them from within themselves, seems a bit circular to me. also the command structure of components deosn't make a lot of sense, is that derived from hal functions or from within the compoonents themselves and can you get a list of commands from terminal or other ?
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So I am a bit mixed about where speicifically I am supposed to put the calls for
loadrt or load component etc, is that in the main hal file or in the custom files ? I know I can put the he custom hal configuis along side, but calling them from within themselves, seems a bit circular to me. also the command structure of components deosn't make a lot of sense, is that derived from hal functions or from within the compoonents themselves and can you get a list of commands from terminal or other ?
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