7i77 -> Huanyang

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23 Jan 2015 12:19 - 23 Jan 2015 12:20 #55282 by dracozny
7i77 -> Huanyang was created by dracozny
Scratching my head a bit on the wiring here, I'm probably just nuking it. As far as I can tell the pins from the analog servo control would be
TB5 GND to ACM
TB5 ANALOG OUT to VI

But what I am unsure about is how to do the Forward and reverse. The FOR and REV pins are sourced against the DCM pin on the drive for either direction. My only thought is to use either one or two output pins from T7 or T8 to a relay. Any other option?
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23 Jan 2015 15:30 - 23 Jan 2015 15:35 #55286 by emcPT
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The analog will be negative to reverse. This is the output will be between -10 to 10, being 0volts velocity=0.

Edit: I was thinking about a servo drive only, although it can also be applied to a VFD if your VFD can work with -10 to 10. It is also possible to use one output from the 7i77 that will be high if the rotation is FWR or low if it is REV, then connect that output to your VFD. The analog from the mesa card must be then a abs() so that its value is always positive.
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23 Jan 2015 16:43 - 23 Jan 2015 16:45 #55290 by dracozny
Replied by dracozny on topic 7i77 -> Huanyang
unfortunately the Huanyang VFD

doesn't work like that as far as I can tell from the manual.

0~+10V corresponding to the
highest operating frequency

in other words it will not take a Negative Voltage for reverse

I can use the analog voltage to start/stop and set the speed of the motor but not set the direction. that is what the FOR and REV pins are for.

I'm not sure how that high or low output would work with the VFD without adding some sort of circuit to translate.

attached is the manual for some Chinese clarification.
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24 Jan 2015 23:51 #55311 by PCW
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Yeah unfortunately you need to have sinking outputs for the Huanyang
and only the enable output is available on the 7I77

A single SPDT relay can be used this way:

7I77 ENA5- to GND
7I77 ENA5+ to relay common
relay NC to FOR
relay NO to REV
relay coil to 7I77 output (DIR)

other options are transistors or perhaps optoisolators
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25 Jan 2015 04:10 #55313 by dracozny
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kinda what I was thinking, thanks for the confirmation

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26 Jan 2015 05:16 #55343 by andypugh
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Yeah unfortunately you need to have sinking outputs for the Huanyang
and only the enable output is available on the 7I77
...
other options are transistors or perhaps optoisolators


Would a ULN2003 work?

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27 Jan 2015 01:49 #55358 by alan_3301
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You might want to consider rs485 control for the huanyang.
It isn't too hard to get working, you just need to make sure your vfd has the chip in place, some don't.
I use a rs232-rs285 adapter on my computer, so use a USB - rs485 with success.

The only downside (may be a big one for you depending on wiring)
It ignores the multifunction inputs, so if you have one of those as Estrop input to the vfd, it will ignore it.

Here is a link with all the development of it.
www.cnczone.com/forums/phase-converters/91847-software.html

I will attach the files so you don't have to register on another forum to download them.
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04 Feb 2015 15:07 #55669 by dracozny
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I went the relay route, it was cheaper. Dealing with Pncconf and Axis however has not been kind.
I can get the spindle to operate in pncconf. Under Axis I can change rotation. But under Axis I can't get the spindle moving I'm sure I missed something somewhere.

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04 Feb 2015 18:45 #55677 by andypugh
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Under Axis I can change rotation. But under Axis I can't get the spindle moving I'm sure I missed something somewhere.


How do you know that you can change rotation if you can't get the spindle moving?

Are you saying that the spindle + speed and - buttons don't work, or that they don't exist?

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05 Feb 2015 00:25 #55691 by dracozny
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Buttons are there just speed does not change. I can even enter Speed with an S code in the MDI screen and no change.
The reason I know it can change direction is because the VFD has the relay I just installed which I can hear click. Plus on the front panel it has two LED's to indicate it's current direction.

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