Yaskawa usarem motors, Amc be25a20 making it work?

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7 years 9 months ago #123613 by andypugh

JR1050 wrote: To use bldc , the encoder index enable has to be connected to the bldc index enable, however, the encoder index enable also has to be connected to the joint index enable. The issue:

With the encoder index enable solely connected to the bldc index enable
the motor motor homes immediately , meaning communtation is immediate. If I connect both of the mentioned pins to encoder index enable, the motor jumps all over while joint enable seems to cancel bldc
Index enable. one is setting the pin, the other is looking for it to be set.
I admit this is confusing . What is the best way for both bldc and joint index enable to share the encoder index enable with out conflicting?


Do you definitely need the joint index enable? Have you configured HOME_USE INDEX?

You should make sure that the bldc is connnected to "rawcounts" from the encoder, or index-reset will cause all sorts of problems.

What pin drives the bldc "home" behaviour?

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7 years 6 months ago #132399 by JR1050
I've been away from this project for a while, life's distractions...

I found these drives to be readily available, AMC SX25A20A, they are a sinusoidal drive, would they work with the bldc component ? What Mesa hardware would be best suited. I attached the manual. Thanks.

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7 years 6 months ago - 7 years 6 months ago #132405 by Todd Zuercher
I think you could use a 7i77 (plus a suitable FPGA card like a 5i25) to control up to 3 of those drives (amps might be a better description), or add a 7i83 to that for a possible total of 6.
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7 years 6 months ago #132463 by JR1050
Andy, PCW,

How would one set this up? As far as i can tell, most,if not all, Mesa daughter cards are analog or step and direction. Your thoughts?

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7 years 5 months ago #132469 by PCW
This _is_ analog so as Todd Zuercher said a 7I77 should work
(with 2 analog axis per channel)

PCI/PCIE is probably better since its easier to get a 2-4 KHz or so update rate so the analog sine waves are not to steppy at full speed

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7 years 5 months ago - 7 years 5 months ago #132478 by JR1050
Ok, when I think analog drive I think single +/- 10v signal. It seems this drive was brought up by Todd before in this thread.

forum.linuxcnc.org/27-driver-boards/2121...ions?limit=6&start=0

"The drive requires two sinusoidal command signals with a 120-degree phase shift (external commutation).The phase angle must
correspond to the position of the motor rotor, while the signal amplitude controls the motor torque." 'Probably not your typical analog drive.

Andy brought up the difficulty of synchronizing two analog signals 120 deg apart. Was this ever figured out ? It was suggested the BLDC component could command this type of signal.

"How do you propose generating the 2 analogue voltages? They need to be synchronised to the rotor movement. I think that can be done in HAL with the bldc component and digital to analogue conversion (possibly PWM)
Do the motors have Hall sensors as well as the encoder?". From the above thread ^^^

Ill contact AMC and see if other information is available,these seem similar to the Mesa brushless amp, until then , any suggestions or hal examples?
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