Solved: Help with Busellato JET 2 spindle retrofit – VFD overload
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27 Aug 2025 07:33 - 16 Sep 2025 17:18 #333977
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Solved: Help with Busellato JET 2 spindle retrofit – VFD overload was created by GDTH
Hi all,I’m in the process of retrofitting a Busellato JET 2 CNC machine. The machine has one main spindle, a side spindle, and drills, but I only need to control the main spindle.The spindle is still running on the original VFD, which has not been altered or replaced.Originally, the VFD was controlled via serial communication, but since I’m using a Mesa 7i77 card, I converted it to 0–10 V analog control (the serial setup seemed unnecessarily complex and hard to understand).Here’s what I’ve tried so far:
- Using the original VFD (unchanged).
- Converted VFD control from serial → 0–10 V (Mesa 7i77).
- Adjusted VFD parameters to allow external analog speed control.
- Able to start the spindle successfully.
- Spindle ramps up but only reaches ~50 Hz.
- After about 10 seconds at 50 Hz, the VFD trips into overload.
My observations:- It sounds like the spindle wants to accelerate further but is somehow being held back.
- I’ve spent several hours tweaking and checking parameters, but I can’t figure out where it’s going wrong.
Any tips, suggestions, or guidance on how to properly configure the VFD (or what to check mechanically/electrically) would be hugely appreciated.Thanks in advance!
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- I’ve spent several hours tweaking and checking parameters, but I can’t figure out where it’s going wrong.
- It sounds like the spindle wants to accelerate further but is somehow being held back.
- After about 10 seconds at 50 Hz, the VFD trips into overload.
- Spindle ramps up but only reaches ~50 Hz.
- Able to start the spindle successfully.
- Adjusted VFD parameters to allow external analog speed control.
- Converted VFD control from serial → 0–10 V (Mesa 7i77).
Last edit: 16 Sep 2025 17:18 by GDTH.
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27 Aug 2025 13:27 #333991
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Replied by andypugh on topic Help with Busellato JET 2 spindle retrofit – VFD overload
The VFD on my high-speed spindle feels a bit like this, it starts sluggishly then seems to nearly get stuck, but in my case it then accelerates away to commanded speed.
Make sure that you really are getting 10V (or whatever) on the analogue voltage input to the VFD using a multimeter. (Also check the polarity...)
You could try operating the VFD with a potentiometer in the conventional way to check if the behaviour is the same.
Make sure that you really are getting 10V (or whatever) on the analogue voltage input to the VFD using a multimeter. (Also check the polarity...)
You could try operating the VFD with a potentiometer in the conventional way to check if the behaviour is the same.
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27 Aug 2025 20:04 #334004
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Replied by GDTH on topic Help with Busellato JET 2 spindle retrofit – VFD overload
ah okay, i will take a poteniometer with me next time. the machine is not close by. are there other things you might suggest? i was thinking of maybe doing the auto tune with the vfd, if i can figure it out.
Do you also think that i force it too quickly to high freq or just too slow?
Also a picture of the spindle, in case it helps some insight
Do you also think that i force it too quickly to high freq or just too slow?
Also a picture of the spindle, in case it helps some insight
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27 Aug 2025 20:16 #334005
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Replied by jmelson on topic Help with Busellato JET 2 spindle retrofit – VFD overload
Yes, it might solve the problem if you add a limit3 (I think that is the name of the hal component) to slow down the change of the spindle speed value.ah okay, i will take a poteniometer with me next time. the machine is not close by. are there other things you might suggest? i was thinking of maybe doing the auto tune with the vfd, if i can figure it out.
Do you also think that i force it too quickly to high freq or just too slow?
Also a picture of the spindle, in case it helps some insight
Jon
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01 Sep 2025 06:27 #334215
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Replied by GDTH on topic Help with Busellato JET 2 spindle retrofit – VFD overload
Yesterday I tried running the VFD with a potentiometer, but had no luck. I experimented by slowly adjusting the frequency and changing some basic parameters to see if I could get any results. The only thing that seemed to have some effect was changing the V/f pattern.
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01 Sep 2025 14:15 #334231
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Replied by jmelson on topic Help with Busellato JET 2 spindle retrofit – VFD overload
Right, I think the V/F profile is wrong. You were showing 32 Amps on the Omron display when it overloaded. it needs to have the V/Hz turned down quite a bit.
You need to check the spindle manual to find out the correct V / Hz rating and then program that into the VFD.
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You need to check the spindle manual to find out the correct V / Hz rating and then program that into the VFD.
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16 Sep 2025 17:17 #335078
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Replied by GDTH on topic Help with Busellato JET 2 spindle retrofit – VFD overload
Yes, there was one parameter I hadn’t interpreted correctly. Now the spindle reaches high RPM smoothly. You can still hear it struggle for a split second at low RPM, but that doesn’t seem to be a problem.
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