my DIY 900x900x320 CNC router.

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02 Oct 2022 06:12 #253219 by macsddau@linuxcnc
This topic replace the one I have created several years ago :
forum.linuxcnc.org/show-your-stuff/37361...teur?start=10#248169

The design of the router is still in work. The first guess of working area was 800x800x300. Now, with more detail design I can rise the dimensions to 900x900x320.

The first difficulties was to ge the PC working for step generating with out latency warnings. The ASRock J3355B-mITX is not a good choice for that. I have recently added a MESA 6i25 FPGA board.
 
No need to get a good base thread, all steps are gerated by the 6i25.
 In the 1U 19in box, the MESA board is not connected directly to the mother board. I use a PCIe 16x riser. But the connection with the 6i25 was not secure.
Just created a frame attached to the riser to secure the connection.
 

Next step : complete the router design.
 
 
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06 Oct 2022 16:40 #253625 by macsddau@linuxcnc
Preparing first part for manufacturing.

This part is form Z axis assembly (in red in the picture) :
 
 
This part will be made in composite with chopped tow carbon fiber and epoxy resine.

The part will be first printed before making a epoxy tool for compressin casting  :
 

The mouls is 5 parts; 2 mains :
 
 

and 3 inserts :
 
2x
 
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14 Dec 2022 22:12 #259508 by macsddau@linuxcnc
I'm curently working on router schematic. I have some questions about connecting the BOB to the driver.

I reproduce a simplified view of internal schematic of each board.
 

My anderstandig is :
pulse=0 -> t=vdd -> driver output is off (got VDD on 1 & 2 of driver optocoupler => 0 difference voltage)
pulse=1 -> t=gnd -> driver output is on

Is this the good interpretation ?
Is there a risk of damaging the BOB or the driver ?
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14 Dec 2022 22:24 #259511 by tommylight
Yes, that is correct.
And no, no damage should occur if the resistors are properly calculated and powered by the right voltage, meaning, powering a 5V rated input with 24V will in most cases damage the optocoupler LED.
Some drives have inputs rated for more than 5V, example LAM Technologies drives are OK from 3.3 up to 32 or 35V. Cheap drives are not, and some will refuse to work with 3.3V if they are rated for 5V, but i have never bumped into those.
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14 Dec 2022 22:37 #259512 by macsddau@linuxcnc

Yes, that is correct.
And no, no damage should occur if the resistors are properly calculated and powered by the right voltage, meaning, powering a 5V rated input with 24V will in most cases damage the optocoupler LED.
Some drives have inputs rated for more than 5V, example LAM Technologies drives are OK from 3.3 up to 32 or 35V. Cheap drives are not, and some will refuse to work with 3.3V if they are rated for 5V, but i have never bumped into those.
 

VDD come form the same 5V power supply.
I can't chose R values. They are fixed on each board. Dirver got 270R and the value on the BOB is unknown.
In the driver datasheet recomendations there is no resistor connectected to VDD on the controler side. That's why I'm not sure.
 
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14 Dec 2022 22:56 #259515 by tommylight
If everything is powered by 5V then no need for the R at all.
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14 Dec 2022 23:09 #259516 by macsddau@linuxcnc
In the first schematic, without adding resistor in serial, with pulse=0, is there a risk to have something else than 0V (negative or some positive mV) in driver optocoupler LED that will give the wrong indication to the driver or damage it ?

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14 Dec 2022 23:13 #259517 by tommylight
With 5V you can not damage drive input, even with reverse polarity nothing will happen, of course the drive will not move the motor.
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14 Dec 2022 23:31 #259519 by macsddau@linuxcnc
I check with ohm law.
dU=Rb.I+Rd.I+Uled  with dU=0 => I=-Uled/(Rb+Rd)
Uled is not a generator => Uled=0 => I=0 => no current !
It was as simple
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