Kunena keeps failing me/A pitch for Discourse

JetForMe wrote:

Sure you can live with it, but there really are far superior alternatives out there, aren't they worth a look?

They would be _if_ we could migrate the current content. I think we would lose a lot if we switched without migration (even if this forum content was archived)

The only truly terrible part of this forum is the editor, and I am optimistic that this might, at some point, get fixed.

I wholeheartedly agree, it wouldn't be nearly as useful without migrating the content. But there is someone on the Discourse forums who has done this before, and he's willing to help me out.

The editor is getting better the spell checker works now.

JT

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Hallo zusammen,

ich bin wirklich noch nicht lange hier im Forum und ehrlich gesagt mag ich Linux nicht wirklich, aber ich kann damit leben, dass es für meine Maschine notwendig ist.

Das bringt mich zu der Frage warum ich Linux nicht mag?
1. ich muss alles selbst machen (Windows macht vieles für mich)
2. es ist alt und sieht auch so aus
3. Ständig geht etwas kaputt und man muss es reparieren, neu einstellen ... (Windows macht das für mich)

Das ist mein Bild von Linux, es kann sein, dass sich das in manchen Versionen geändert hat, aber das ist mein Bild, das ich habe, und das ist genau das Bild, das auch dieses Forum vermittelt.

Die ganze Zeit funktioniert etwas nicht, es muss repariert werden und es sieht so aus, als ob die Dinosaurier das Disein gemacht haben.


Es tut mir wirklich leid, das sagen zu müssen, aber die Software des Forums wird nicht ausreichend gepflegt und gewartet.
Wenn ich daran denke, dass man mehr Leute von Linux überzeugen möchte, die Community größer aufbauen möchte, dann muss man mit der Zeit gehen und diese Forum Software hat ihre besten Tage hinter sich.

Ich habe selbst keine Ahnung wie viel Arbeit so ein Forum macht und wie viel Pflege da reingesteckt werden muss, aber Leute abzuweisen, die ihre Hilfe und Zeit anbieten hier unterstützend mitzuarbeiten, kann ich nicht verstehen, denn gefühlt mag dieses Forum niemand.

Sorry, das ist meine Meinung!
Mücke

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Hello all,

I really haven't been on the forum long and to be honest I don't really like Linux, but I can live with it being necessary for my machine.

This brings me to the question why I don't like Linux?
1. I have to do everything myself (Windows does a lot for me)
2. it's old and looks old
3. something breaks all the time and you have to fix it, set it up again ... (Windows does it for me)

That's my image of Linux, it may be that it has changed in some versions, but that's the image I have, and that's exactly the image this forum gives too.

All the time something is not working, it needs to be fixed and it looks like the dinosaurs did the disein.


I'm really sorry to say this, but the software of the forum is not adequately maintained and serviced.
When I think about convincing more people to use Linux, building the community bigger, you have to move with the times and this forum software has its best days behind it.

I have no idea how much work such a forum takes and how much care has to be put into it, but to turn away people who offer their help and time to support here, I can't understand, because it feels like nobody likes this forum.

Sorry, that's my opinion!
Muecke

1. No way, maybe 15-20 years ago, but now, no way.
2. Win 10 is ugly as hell, and useless as user friendly, how many times did it open control pannel when you want to shut it down???
And Linux has many, many desktop environments to choose from, Gnome and KDE being far superior to any windoze, especially on touchscreens.
3. How? I have several PC and laptops in use daily, like in use 24H, for months, never ever had anything break or more importantly, slow down. Try leaving windoze on for a week and see how utterly useless it becomes.
Having said all that, i know why you see it as such, using Debian had issues, sometimes more, sometimes less, but it had issues. And XFCE is pretty rough.
Use Mint, or now Debian BookWorm as it seems to be more usable, and choose the desktop environment, while installing or after, your choice.

Muecke wrote:

1. I have to do everything myself (Windows does a lot for me)

 

This is probably my biggest gripe against windows. Yes windows does a lot by itself without even asking you.

I have a many PC with dual boot  Linux/Windows. Sometimes It can be a few weeks before I turn on those PC. Here is what happens in this case:

If I'm booting Linux: It always work and always take about 15 sec. Nothing less nothing more

If I'm booting windows (10):
- Takes at least 4x longer to get to the login screen, often much more.
- Then windows want to go online and check for updates (without asking you)
- Then windows want to download and install updates (without asking you)
- Then often want to reboot right after that (by itself!)
- Then Microsoft defender want to inspect your files (without asking you)
- Then  windows want to run telemetry (without asking you)
- Then who know what (without asking you)  

And this is just the beginning, right after that ALL the apps you've installed have their turn to check for updates, run some scheduled task, or just bloat you computer with stuff you've stop using ages ago. (without even asking you)