Linuxcnc pro/paid?

Rick G wrote:

If I go out and mess with it today I'll see if I can get a screen grab where you can see the toolpath starting very far away from the part.

From reading that one would expect the next response to be coming from you.
And actually when I loaded it on a sim here it looked fine.

I will continue to update and add information as I can. That should in no way mean that people should avoid trying to help with the information provided if possible.

Rick G wrote:

If I go out and mess with it today I'll see if I can get a screen grab where you can see the toolpath starting very far away from the part.

From reading that one would expect the next response to be coming from you.
And actually when I loaded it on a sim here it looked fine.

Was that a linuxcnc sim or another sim? Did you actually run it to see if it started over the part?
Sometimes when I load it into linuxcnc it doesn't show the line but still give the warning that it starts outside the machine limits. Other times I can see it on the viewer.
I am pretty sure this is an issue with linuxcnc. If you tried another sim this might help confirm that. If it loads and simulates properly in a linuxcnc sim then it might point to an issue specifically with my install or something like that?
I was kind of hoping someone more familiar with reading code could look it over for me and tell if there was something I missed causing it to start so far off from where it's supposed to.

i do at times take on paid work , depends on whats needed etc ,

yoshimitsuspeed wrote:

cmorley wrote: Well that question would be best posted on the mail list.
Most developers don't read the forum.

Yeah I have heard that before. The last thing I need is more email and I really can't believe that is the primary form of communication for linuxcnc.

cmorley wrote: Well that question would be best posted on the mail list.
Most developers don't read the forum.

If you are expecting a correct answer in 24 hours on a forum without paying anyone, then yes linuxcnc is not (yet) for you.
The user base of linuxcnc is not big enough to support that.

I think this is partially a self fulfilling prophecy for linuxcnc. There aren't enough regular users because there isn't enough activity or support to catch most peoples interest. Because of that there isn't enough activity on the forum or support to draw in people who might be interested.
I think the mailing list is horrible for that. It keeps the conversation more private and harder to access. It makes the public communication like the forum seem completely dead and it makes people who are used to quick easy communication and access think that linuxcnc is dead.

It's a good thing that no one here seems to care if linuxcnc is popular or successful. It seems like overall the Devs do everything in their power to keep it off the radar and to disuade interest.
I'm not asking that it be a business. i'm proposing that because it's current format isn't working for me and I suspect for many others who could be interested if it was a little more accessible.

Hmm so i tell you how to get hopefully better help and you wish not to do that. (maillist)
I don't make the rules - in fact I prefer the forum but I read both. ( I am a minor developer)
In fact we had to push a bit to get the forum opened originally.
The devs that prefer the maillist realize having two places to go for info is less then perfect.
They just hate the forum - not sure why.
Not sure what you mean by accessible - linuxcnc is very well documented and pretty easy to try.

But I don't really think that is why linuxcnc isn't as popular as MACH.
Linuxcnc isn't marketed - linuxcnc is harder to get started with. linuxcnc is not on windows.
I realize also that some of the choices made do not help it to be more popular.
And yes some of the devs undoubtedly dont care about that.

I in fact do want it more popular - and I think Tormach will help that.
And I feel your pain - sometimes my questions are unaswered too.

For me the fact I can work on the code in linuxcnc/machinekit means MACH is out for me.
But I can also understand when you just want to get work done .....

Cheers
Chris M

yoshimitsuspeed wrote: Yeah I have heard that before. The last thing I need is more email and I really can't believe that is the primary form of communication for linuxcnc.

This article might explain why the type of person who is a LinuxCNC developer prefers a mailing list:
www.freelock.com/blog/john-locke/2010-03...list-or-forum-theory

It is very easy to post a question to a forum and wait for a response.
It is a real effort to read every new post to a forum every day.
It is a _huge_ effort to read every new post to 10 forums every day.

The mail I get from my mailing lists all comes straight to me, and I can scan through them in chronological order in an efficient way, all in one place.

As a complete beginner I found the forum to be extremely responsive. Most of my issues were hardware related.

Most (all?) open source development is managed with mailing lists. It would probably be useful to have someone feed things asked in the forums frequently to the dev mailing list.

It's true though, LinuxCNC could see a lot of industrial use if someone offered paid support.