Spindle jumpy when slowing down.

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20 Dec 2017 22:52 #103413 by zmcdona1
Hello,
Sorry I couldn’t think of better terminology but I’m new to diy cnc and I bought a Emco PC Mill 55. It’s in great shape so I put a Mesa 7i76 on it . Got some help from my name is mike on YouTube with his wiring videos .

Everything’s going smooth except when it slows down from day 3500 rpm to 2500 itslows down jumpy like ABS on a car. If I slowly go down there no problem but going from a high rpm to low/stopped it’s jumpy .
It also constantly spins slowly in reverse while it’s supposed to be stopped .
Not sure if this is a common problem or if I can just edit the Hal code to have it slowly slow down as a quick fix. By the constantly turning at like 10 rpm concerns me.
Thank you and here’s a video of the sound

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20 Dec 2017 23:26 - 20 Dec 2017 23:29 #103414 by PCW
As far as slowing down goes, do you have a braking resistor? if not there will be limits to how fast you can stop smoothly

Slowly spinning when the spindle is supposed to be off sounds like a problem in the spindle enable wiring or hal file connections

Note: Older versions of pncconf mistakenly wired spindle enable to machine-on in the hal file so that's also a possibility.

Edit: Yes you can set the acceleration rate on the hal file by using the limit2 component but you can also typically do this in your VFD setup
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21 Dec 2017 15:33 #103432 by zmcdona1
thank you, i did some research and i think my wiring to the spindle might be messed up. ill reconfigure it today.

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26 Dec 2017 19:55 #103709 by zmcdona1
i reconfirmed my wiring but my spindle still spins backwards at about 10 rpm when its supposed to be off.
i attached pictures of my wiring and what the connections are in the manual.
Just wanted to confirm that im not wiring it wrong. i cant get it to work in open loop mode either.
Thank you
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26 Dec 2017 21:24 #103715 by PCW
can you post your hal and ini files? Older versions of pncconf wired spindle enable to machine on rather than spindle on

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27 Dec 2017 16:15 #103756 by zmcdona1
I just copied the whole folder.
thank you

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27 Dec 2017 16:50 #103757 by PCW
Your spindle enable is wired to machine on:

net machine-is-enabled => hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.spinena

This is a bug in older versions of pncconf and should be changed to:

net spindle-enable => hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.spinena
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27 Dec 2017 17:12 #103758 by zmcdona1
that fixed me, works perfectly now.
when i go less then 1 rpm - 17 rpm it spins backwards, is that anything to be concerned about?
at 0 rpm its stopped
thank you, i wouldn't have ever figured it out.

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27 Dec 2017 19:24 #103762 by PCW
You could either zero the offset in your VFD or set the ini file spindle PID bias setting to 17
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