Getting joint 0 following error?

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28 Mar 2020 23:07 #161856 by Catch22
So I have Linuxcnc with Mesa 5i25 and 7i77 boards with BE25A20 AMC drives.
I have removed the timing belts on the sem DC brushed servo motors.
I have wired all the drives and limit switches and when I try to jog the servo motors the z axis motor turns both + and - but the x and y only turn when I jog the + and nothing when I hit the - button. I also get a joint 0 following error when the - button is pressed. Does anyone have any ideas why this is happening.
Thanks Mike

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28 Mar 2020 23:21 #161862 by PCW
Can you post your hal and ini files?

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28 Mar 2020 23:59 #161878 by Catch22
# Generated by PNCconf at Sat Mar 28 17:57:56 2020
# If you make changes to this file, they will be
# overwritten when you run PNCconf again

[EMC]
MACHINE = march282020
DEBUG = 0

[DISPLAY]
DISPLAY = axis
POSITION_OFFSET = RELATIVE
POSITION_FEEDBACK = ACTUAL
MAX_FEED_OVERRIDE = 2.000000
MAX_SPINDLE_OVERRIDE = 1.000000
MIN_SPINDLE_OVERRIDE = 0.500000
INTRO_GRAPHIC = linuxcnc.gif
INTRO_TIME = 5
PROGRAM_PREFIX = /home/mike/linuxcnc/nc_files
INCREMENTS = .1in .05in .01in .005in .001in .0005in .0001in
POSITION_FEEDBACK = ACTUAL
DEFAULT_LINEAR_VELOCITY = 0.250000
MAX_LINEAR_VELOCITY = 1.000000
MIN_LINEAR_VELOCITY = 0.016670
DEFAULT_ANGULAR_VELOCITY = 12.000000
MAX_ANGULAR_VELOCITY = 180.000000
MIN_ANGULAR_VELOCITY = 1.666667
EDITOR = gedit
GEOMETRY = xyz

[FILTER]
PROGRAM_EXTENSION = .png,.gif,.jpg Greyscale Depth Image
PROGRAM_EXTENSION = .py Python Script
png = image-to-gcode
gif = image-to-gcode
jpg = image-to-gcode
py = python

[TASK]
TASK = milltask
CYCLE_TIME = 0.010

[RS274NGC]
PARAMETER_FILE = linuxcnc.var

[EMCMOT]
EMCMOT = motmod
COMM_TIMEOUT = 1.0
COMM_WAIT = 0.010
SERVO_PERIOD = 1000000

[HOSTMOT2]
# **** This is for info only ****
# DRIVER0=hm2_pci
# BOARD0=5i25

[HAL]
HALUI = halui
HALFILE = march282020.hal
HALFILE = custom.hal
POSTGUI_HALFILE = postgui_call_list.hal
SHUTDOWN = shutdown.hal

[HALUI]

[TRAJ]
AXES = 3
COORDINATES = X Y Z
LINEAR_UNITS = inch
ANGULAR_UNITS = degree
CYCLE_TIME = 0.010
DEFAULT_VELOCITY = 0.10
MAX_LINEAR_VELOCITY = 1.00

[EMCIO]
EMCIO = io
CYCLE_TIME = 0.100
TOOL_TABLE = tool.tbl

#********************
# Axis X
#********************
[AXIS_0]
TYPE = LINEAR
HOME = 0.0
FERROR = 0.5
MIN_FERROR = 0.05
MAX_VELOCITY = 1.0
MAX_ACCELERATION = 30.0
P = 50.0
I = 0.0
D = 0.0
FF0 = 0.0
FF1 = 1.0
FF2 = 0.0
BIAS = 0.0
DEADBAND = 0.0
MAX_OUTPUT = 0.0
ENCODER_SCALE = 4000.0
OUTPUT_SCALE = 10.0
OUTPUT_MIN_LIMIT = -10.0
OUTPUT_MAX_LIMIT = 10.0
MIN_LIMIT = -0.001
MAX_LIMIT = 8.0
HOME_OFFSET = 0.000000
HOME_SEARCH_VEL = -0.050000
HOME_LATCH_VEL = -0.016667
HOME_FINAL_VEL = 0.000000
HOME_USE_INDEX = NO
HOME_IGNORE_LIMITS = YES
HOME_SEQUENCE = 1

#********************
# Axis Y
#********************
[AXIS_1]
TYPE = LINEAR
HOME = 0.0
FERROR = 0.5
MIN_FERROR = 0.05
MAX_VELOCITY = 1.0
MAX_ACCELERATION = 30.0
P = 50.0
I = 0.0
D = 0.0
FF0 = 0.0
FF1 = 1.0
FF2 = 0.0
BIAS = 0.0
DEADBAND = 0.0
MAX_OUTPUT = 0.0
ENCODER_SCALE = 4000.0
OUTPUT_SCALE = 10.0
OUTPUT_MIN_LIMIT = -10.0
OUTPUT_MAX_LIMIT = 10.0
MIN_LIMIT = -0.001
MAX_LIMIT = 8.0
HOME_OFFSET = 0.000000
HOME_SEARCH_VEL = -0.050000
HOME_LATCH_VEL = -0.016667
HOME_FINAL_VEL = 0.000000
HOME_USE_INDEX = NO
HOME_IGNORE_LIMITS = YES
HOME_SEQUENCE = 2

#********************
# Axis Z
#********************
[AXIS_2]
TYPE = LINEAR
HOME = 0.0
FERROR = 0.5
MIN_FERROR = 0.05
MAX_VELOCITY = 1.0
MAX_ACCELERATION = 30.0
P = 50.0
I = 0.0
D = 0.0
FF0 = 0.0
FF1 = 1.0
FF2 = 0.0
BIAS = 0.0
DEADBAND = 0.0
MAX_OUTPUT = 0.0
ENCODER_SCALE = 4000.0
OUTPUT_SCALE = 10.0
OUTPUT_MIN_LIMIT = -10.0
OUTPUT_MAX_LIMIT = 10.0
MIN_LIMIT = -4.0
MAX_LIMIT = 0.001
HOME_OFFSET = 0.000000
HOME_SEARCH_VEL = -0.050000
HOME_LATCH_VEL = -0.016667
HOME_FINAL_VEL = 0.000000
HOME_USE_INDEX = NO
HOME_IGNORE_LIMITS = YES
HOME_SEQUENCE = 0

#********************
# Spindle
#********************
[SPINDLE_9]
P = 0
I = 0
D = 0
FF0 = 1
FF1 = 0
FF2 = 0
BIAS = 0
DEADBAND = 0
MAX_OUTPUT = 2000

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29 Mar 2020 00:00 #161879 by Catch22
# Generated by PNCconf at Sat Mar 28 17:57:56 2020
# If you make changes to this file, they will be
# overwritten when you run PNCconf again

loadrt trivkins
loadrt [EMCMOT]EMCMOT servo_period_nsec=[EMCMOT]SERVO_PERIOD num_joints=[TRAJ]AXES
loadrt hostmot2
loadrt hm2_pci config=" num_encoders=6 num_pwmgens=0 num_stepgens=0 sserial_port_0=000xxx"
setp hm2_5i25.0.watchdog.timeout_ns 5000000
loadrt pid names=pid.x,pid.y,pid.z,pid.s

addf hm2_5i25.0.read servo-thread
addf motion-command-handler servo-thread
addf motion-controller servo-thread
addf pid.x.do-pid-calcs servo-thread
addf pid.y.do-pid-calcs servo-thread
addf pid.z.do-pid-calcs servo-thread
addf pid.s.do-pid-calcs servo-thread
addf hm2_5i25.0.write servo-thread

# external output signals


# external input signals


# --- ESTOP-EXT ---
net estop-ext <= hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.0.input-00

# --- MIN-HOME-X ---
net min-home-x <= hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.0.input-09

# --- MIN-HOME-Y ---
net min-home-y <= hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.0.input-10

# --- MAX-HOME-Z ---
net max-home-z <= hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.0.input-11

#*******************
# AXIS X
#*******************

setp pid.x.Pgain [AXIS_0]P
setp pid.x.Igain [AXIS_0]I
setp pid.x.Dgain [AXIS_0]D
setp pid.x.bias [AXIS_0]BIAS
setp pid.x.FF0 [AXIS_0]FF0
setp pid.x.FF1 [AXIS_0]FF1
setp pid.x.FF2 [AXIS_0]FF2
setp pid.x.deadband [AXIS_0]DEADBAND
setp pid.x.maxoutput [AXIS_0]MAX_OUTPUT
setp pid.x.error-previous-target true

net x-index-enable <=> pid.x.index-enable
net x-enable => pid.x.enable
net x-pos-cmd => pid.x.command
net x-vel-cmd => pid.x.command-deriv
net x-pos-fb => pid.x.feedback
net x-output => pid.x.output

# ---PWM Generator signals/setup---

setp hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.1.analogout0-scalemax [AXIS_0]OUTPUT_SCALE
setp hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.1.analogout0-minlim [AXIS_0]OUTPUT_MIN_LIMIT
setp hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.1.analogout0-maxlim [AXIS_0]OUTPUT_MAX_LIMIT

net x-output => hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.1.analogout0
net x-pos-cmd axis.0.motor-pos-cmd
net x-enable axis.0.amp-enable-out
# enable _all_ sserial pwmgens
net x-enable hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.1.analogena

# ---Encoder feedback signals/setup---

setp hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00.counter-mode 0
setp hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00.filter 1
setp hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00.index-invert 0
setp hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00.index-mask 0
setp hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00.index-mask-invert 0
setp hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00.scale [AXIS_0]ENCODER_SCALE

net x-pos-fb <= hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00.position
net x-vel-fb <= hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00.velocity
net x-pos-fb => axis.0.motor-pos-fb
net x-index-enable axis.0.index-enable <=> hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00.index-enable
net x-pos-rawcounts <= hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00.rawcounts

# ---setup home / limit switch signals---

net min-home-x => axis.0.home-sw-in
net min-home-x => axis.0.neg-lim-sw-in
net x-pos-limit => axis.0.pos-lim-sw-in

#*******************
# AXIS Y
#*******************

setp pid.y.Pgain [AXIS_1]P
setp pid.y.Igain [AXIS_1]I
setp pid.y.Dgain [AXIS_1]D
setp pid.y.bias [AXIS_1]BIAS
setp pid.y.FF0 [AXIS_1]FF0
setp pid.y.FF1 [AXIS_1]FF1
setp pid.y.FF2 [AXIS_1]FF2
setp pid.y.deadband [AXIS_1]DEADBAND
setp pid.y.maxoutput [AXIS_1]MAX_OUTPUT
setp pid.y.error-previous-target true

net y-index-enable <=> pid.y.index-enable
net y-enable => pid.y.enable
net y-pos-cmd => pid.y.command
net y-vel-cmd => pid.y.command-deriv
net y-pos-fb => pid.y.feedback
net y-output => pid.y.output

# ---PWM Generator signals/setup---

setp hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.1.analogout1-scalemax [AXIS_1]OUTPUT_SCALE
setp hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.1.analogout1-minlim [AXIS_1]OUTPUT_MIN_LIMIT
setp hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.1.analogout1-maxlim [AXIS_1]OUTPUT_MAX_LIMIT

net y-output => hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.1.analogout1
net y-pos-cmd axis.1.motor-pos-cmd
net y-enable axis.1.amp-enable-out

# ---Encoder feedback signals/setup---

setp hm2_5i25.0.encoder.01.counter-mode 0
setp hm2_5i25.0.encoder.01.filter 1
setp hm2_5i25.0.encoder.01.index-invert 0
setp hm2_5i25.0.encoder.01.index-mask 0
setp hm2_5i25.0.encoder.01.index-mask-invert 0
setp hm2_5i25.0.encoder.01.scale [AXIS_1]ENCODER_SCALE

net y-pos-fb <= hm2_5i25.0.encoder.01.position
net y-vel-fb <= hm2_5i25.0.encoder.01.velocity
net y-pos-fb => axis.1.motor-pos-fb
net y-index-enable axis.1.index-enable <=> hm2_5i25.0.encoder.01.index-enable
net y-pos-rawcounts <= hm2_5i25.0.encoder.01.rawcounts

# ---setup home / limit switch signals---

net min-home-y => axis.1.home-sw-in
net min-home-y => axis.1.neg-lim-sw-in
net y-pos-limit => axis.1.pos-lim-sw-in

#*******************
# AXIS Z
#*******************

setp pid.z.Pgain [AXIS_2]P
setp pid.z.Igain [AXIS_2]I
setp pid.z.Dgain [AXIS_2]D
setp pid.z.bias [AXIS_2]BIAS
setp pid.z.FF0 [AXIS_2]FF0
setp pid.z.FF1 [AXIS_2]FF1
setp pid.z.FF2 [AXIS_2]FF2
setp pid.z.deadband [AXIS_2]DEADBAND
setp pid.z.maxoutput [AXIS_2]MAX_OUTPUT
setp pid.z.error-previous-target true

net z-index-enable <=> pid.z.index-enable
net z-enable => pid.z.enable
net z-pos-cmd => pid.z.command
net z-vel-cmd => pid.z.command-deriv
net z-pos-fb => pid.z.feedback
net z-output => pid.z.output

# ---PWM Generator signals/setup---

setp hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.1.analogout2-scalemax [AXIS_2]OUTPUT_SCALE
setp hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.1.analogout2-minlim [AXIS_2]OUTPUT_MIN_LIMIT
setp hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.1.analogout2-maxlim [AXIS_2]OUTPUT_MAX_LIMIT

net z-output => hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.1.analogout2
net z-pos-cmd axis.2.motor-pos-cmd
net z-enable axis.2.amp-enable-out

# ---Encoder feedback signals/setup---

setp hm2_5i25.0.encoder.02.counter-mode 0
setp hm2_5i25.0.encoder.02.filter 1
setp hm2_5i25.0.encoder.02.index-invert 0
setp hm2_5i25.0.encoder.02.index-mask 0
setp hm2_5i25.0.encoder.02.index-mask-invert 0
setp hm2_5i25.0.encoder.02.scale [AXIS_2]ENCODER_SCALE

net z-pos-fb <= hm2_5i25.0.encoder.02.position
net z-vel-fb <= hm2_5i25.0.encoder.02.velocity
net z-pos-fb => axis.2.motor-pos-fb
net z-index-enable axis.2.index-enable <=> hm2_5i25.0.encoder.02.index-enable
net z-pos-rawcounts <= hm2_5i25.0.encoder.02.rawcounts

# ---setup home / limit switch signals---

net max-home-z => axis.2.home-sw-in
net z-neg-limit => axis.2.neg-lim-sw-in
net max-home-z => axis.2.pos-lim-sw-in

#*******************
# SPINDLE S
#*******************

setp pid.s.Pgain [SPINDLE_9]P
setp pid.s.Igain [SPINDLE_9]I
setp pid.s.Dgain [SPINDLE_9]D
setp pid.s.bias [SPINDLE_9]BIAS
setp pid.s.FF0 [SPINDLE_9]FF0
setp pid.s.FF1 [SPINDLE_9]FF1
setp pid.s.FF2 [SPINDLE_9]FF2
setp pid.s.deadband [SPINDLE_9]DEADBAND
setp pid.s.maxoutput [SPINDLE_9]MAX_OUTPUT
setp pid.s.error-previous-target true

net spindle-index-enable <=> pid.s.index-enable
net spindle-enable => pid.s.enable
net spindle-vel-cmd-rpm => pid.s.command
net spindle-vel-fb-rpm => pid.s.feedback
net spindle-output <= pid.s.output

# ---setup spindle control signals---

net spindle-vel-cmd-rps <= motion.spindle-speed-out-rps
net spindle-vel-cmd-rps-abs <= motion.spindle-speed-out-rps-abs
net spindle-vel-cmd-rpm <= motion.spindle-speed-out
net spindle-vel-cmd-rpm-abs <= motion.spindle-speed-out-abs
net spindle-enable <= motion.spindle-on
net spindle-cw <= motion.spindle-forward
net spindle-ccw <= motion.spindle-reverse
net spindle-brake <= motion.spindle-brake
net spindle-revs => motion.spindle-revs
net spindle-at-speed => motion.spindle-at-speed
net spindle-vel-fb-rps => motion.spindle-speed-in
net spindle-index-enable <=> motion.spindle-index-enable

# ---Setup spindle at speed signals---

sets spindle-at-speed true


#******************************
# connect miscellaneous signals
#******************************

# ---HALUI signals---

net joint-select-a halui.joint.0.select
net x-is-homed halui.joint.0.is-homed
net jog-x-pos halui.jog.0.plus
net jog-x-neg halui.jog.0.minus
net jog-x-analog halui.jog.0.analog
net joint-select-b halui.joint.1.select
net y-is-homed halui.joint.1.is-homed
net jog-y-pos halui.jog.1.plus
net jog-y-neg halui.jog.1.minus
net jog-y-analog halui.jog.1.analog
net joint-select-c halui.joint.2.select
net z-is-homed halui.joint.2.is-homed
net jog-z-pos halui.jog.2.plus
net jog-z-neg halui.jog.2.minus
net jog-z-analog halui.jog.2.analog
net jog-selected-pos halui.jog.selected.plus
net jog-selected-neg halui.jog.selected.minus
net spindle-manual-cw halui.spindle.forward
net spindle-manual-ccw halui.spindle.reverse
net spindle-manual-stop halui.spindle.stop
net machine-is-on halui.machine.is-on
net jog-speed halui.jog-speed
net MDI-mode halui.mode.is-mdi

# ---coolant signals---

net coolant-mist <= iocontrol.0.coolant-mist
net coolant-flood <= iocontrol.0.coolant-flood

# ---probe signal---

net probe-in => motion.probe-input

# ---motion control signals---

net in-position <= motion.in-position
net machine-is-enabled <= motion.motion-enabled

# ---digital in / out signals---

# ---estop signals---

net estop-out <= iocontrol.0.user-enable-out
net estop-ext => iocontrol.0.emc-enable-in

# ---manual tool change signals---

loadusr -W hal_manualtoolchange
net tool-change-request iocontrol.0.tool-change => hal_manualtoolchange.change
net tool-change-confirmed iocontrol.0.tool-changed <= hal_manualtoolchange.changed
net tool-number iocontrol.0.tool-prep-number => hal_manualtoolchange.number
net tool-prepare-loopback iocontrol.0.tool-prepare => iocontrol.0.tool-prepared

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29 Mar 2020 00:02 #161880 by Catch22
Sorry if I posted this wrong..

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29 Mar 2020 00:16 #161884 by PCW
I dont see anything obvious wrong in the hal or ini files

Do the encoders read properly if you disable the drives and rotate the motor by hand?
Do the servos hold position when enabled by LinuxCNC (and resist applied force)?

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29 Mar 2020 00:20 #161885 by Catch22
There are no encoders, I have glass scales I'm using. And I haven't checked to see if the servo's are holding position, but I will check that out tomorrow.

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29 Mar 2020 00:30 #161889 by Catch22
I'm trying to run in torque mode, and use the linear glass scales for feedback, but I also have tachs so I could run in volocity mode if that would be better.
Thanks Mike

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29 Mar 2020 00:38 #161890 by PCW
I would expect velocity mode to be easier to tune (but you will need to get the tach polarity right and tach scaling set right)

Didn't realize you had linear scales, that does make safe initial testing a bit harder.

One thing you could do with the motors disconnected is move the linear axis by hand
with the LinuxCNC running and drives enabled (but disconnected mechanically)
the motors should run in direction that opposes your movement of the linear axis
(you may have to increase the following error limits in the INI file for this test and
general tuning)

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29 Mar 2020 00:52 #161895 by Catch22
So I should just change this in every axis
MIN_FERROR = 0.05
To say 0.100

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