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Retrofit 7 ton HOMAG with Rexroth motors and drives - mesa 7i97t
8 months 2 weeks ago - 8 months 2 weeks ago #342893
by Nkbhvid
Hi there
I am retrofitting a giant 7 meter and 7 ton Homag BMF 411.
When it left the factory in 2005 it was equipped with Indramat servos (today Rexroth) and Rexroth DKC 03.3 drives with sercos I communication.
With a great deal of willingness from our local Rexroth technicians i managed to reconfigure the drives to analog com and now the drives are updated with new firmware ready to be re-installed in the machine.
I have managed so far to connect the 0 joint -x axis- to my mesa 7i97t ethernet card and i can see the DRO increasing/decreasing respectively when I rotate the motor by hand. So all in all a first table setup with one motor no limit switches, motor brake and enable signals are still not coming from linux but directly from UPS.
Here are my problems:
1 When I enable the drive the mesa card throws out 1 volt to the analog pin and the motor starts turning at a speed that looks OK like 10% of speed max.
2. When I jog the motor in continuous mode the x axis DRO counts up 0,18 mm when pressing and another 0,18 when releasing the tab - same result if i use the jog arrows in axis.
Any ideas?
I am not a linux specialist - in fact this is my first time putting fingers to a linux pc but i have been working with CNCs for 3 decades
I am retrofitting a giant 7 meter and 7 ton Homag BMF 411.
When it left the factory in 2005 it was equipped with Indramat servos (today Rexroth) and Rexroth DKC 03.3 drives with sercos I communication.
With a great deal of willingness from our local Rexroth technicians i managed to reconfigure the drives to analog com and now the drives are updated with new firmware ready to be re-installed in the machine.
I have managed so far to connect the 0 joint -x axis- to my mesa 7i97t ethernet card and i can see the DRO increasing/decreasing respectively when I rotate the motor by hand. So all in all a first table setup with one motor no limit switches, motor brake and enable signals are still not coming from linux but directly from UPS.
Here are my problems:
1 When I enable the drive the mesa card throws out 1 volt to the analog pin and the motor starts turning at a speed that looks OK like 10% of speed max.
2. When I jog the motor in continuous mode the x axis DRO counts up 0,18 mm when pressing and another 0,18 when releasing the tab - same result if i use the jog arrows in axis.
Any ideas?
I am not a linux specialist - in fact this is my first time putting fingers to a linux pc but i have been working with CNCs for 3 decades
Last edit: 8 months 2 weeks ago by Nkbhvid.
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8 months 2 weeks ago #342896
by PCW
Replied by PCW on topic Retrofit 7 ton HOMAG with Rexroth motors and drives - mesa 7i97t
If you set all PID values to 0 and you still get 1V outputs from the 7I97T analog outputs
,the 7I97T is likely damaged
,the 7I97T is likely damaged
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8 months 2 weeks ago #342898
by Nkbhvid
Replied by Nkbhvid on topic Retrofit 7 ton HOMAG with Rexroth motors and drives - mesa 7i97t
I wonder how this could be damaged?
it has never been connected to anything else but 5 volt, Ethernet, one encoder and one analog out? It has never been installed and has never left the table.
it has never been connected to anything else but 5 volt, Ethernet, one encoder and one analog out? It has never been installed and has never left the table.
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8 months 2 weeks ago #342900
by PCW
Replied by PCW on topic Retrofit 7 ton HOMAG with Rexroth motors and drives - mesa 7i97t
Missing grounds between a large machine and the controller can easily damage
analog and encoder pins, that is, unless a permanent ground exists between
the machine and the control electronics. there can easily be enough potential
difference to damage electronic connections.
analog and encoder pins, that is, unless a permanent ground exists between
the machine and the control electronics. there can easily be enough potential
difference to damage electronic connections.
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8 months 2 weeks ago - 8 months 2 weeks ago #342902
by Nkbhvid
Replied by Nkbhvid on topic Retrofit 7 ton HOMAG with Rexroth motors and drives - mesa 7i97t
Hmmmm
as said: it has never left the office desk and has never been near a “large machine” in real life.
If damaged it can only be because of the failed attempts to connect to LinuxCNC.
as said: it has never left the office desk and has never been near a “large machine” in real life.
If damaged it can only be because of the failed attempts to connect to LinuxCNC.
Last edit: 8 months 2 weeks ago by Nkbhvid.
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8 months 2 weeks ago - 8 months 2 weeks ago #342905
by PCW
Replied by PCW on topic Retrofit 7 ton HOMAG with Rexroth motors and drives - mesa 7i97t
Failed communication connections are a software issue.
If you power the 7I97T (and not run LinuxCNC), do you read
near 0V on all analog outputs? (that is, less than 15 mV)
If you power the 7I97T (and not run LinuxCNC), do you read
near 0V on all analog outputs? (that is, less than 15 mV)
Last edit: 8 months 2 weeks ago by PCW.
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