Adding 7i73 to working setup 5i15 7i77 7i84

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11 Jul 2017 19:27 #95687 by danilom
Hello all

I have a working config with 5i25 with one 7i77 connected to it and 7i84 connected to the 7i77 RS422 pins

is there a way to connect 7i73 pendant interface to this configuration without adding 7i74 8 channel RS422 interface card?

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11 Jul 2017 19:46 - 11 Jul 2017 19:46 #95690 by PCW
Its awkward to add just one additional RS-422 port

I can be done with a single external chip (a SP491 for example)
or using a Mesa 485X1 TTL to RS-422/485 adapter but it
would need to be hand wired to the second 5I25 I/O connector
Last edit: 11 Jul 2017 19:46 by PCW.

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11 Jul 2017 21:01 #95697 by danilom
I got a board with AM26LS31 - Quadruple Differential Line Driver, datasheet says
AM26LS31 family of devices is a quadruple complementary-output line driver designed to meet the requirements of ANSI TIA/EIA-422-B

no problem with wiring it to the 5i25 second port, will I need different firmware file for it?

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11 Jul 2017 21:13 #95699 by PCW
You need a differential receiver also:

FPGA TX PIN ==> DIFF DRIVER ==> TX+ and TX- ==> 7I73 RX
FPGA RX PIN <== DIFF RECEIVER <== RX+ and RX- <== 7I73 TX

If you add a 26LS32 you can make a 4 channel adapter
or if you want a single chip for RX and TX , a SP491 or equivalent
transceiver will work.

Note that you cannot use 8 pin RS-485 transceiver chips

You can use the 7I77_7I74 firmware

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11 Jul 2017 21:38 #95700 by danilom
Thanks, forgot about receiver side,

I got MAX 491 , its just slower than SP491 .... 2.5Mbps max

Will try it, if nothing will order the 7i74 and put both 7i73 and 7i84 on it

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13 Jul 2017 23:54 - 13 Jul 2017 23:57 #95779 by danilom
I cant seem to get it to detect the 7i73 , correct firmware is loaded in 5i25, if connected to the 7i77 rs422 port its detected right away, added sserial_port_1=00000000

MAX491 is connected like this

5i25 Port2 MAX491 7i73
pin1 --- MAX491 pin 2
pin3 --- MAX491 pin 5
MAX491 pin 12 --- RJ45 pin 6
MAX491 pin 11 --- RJ45 pin 3
MAX491 pin 10 --- RJ45 pin 1
MAX491 pin 9 --- RJ45 pin 2
5v ---- MAX491 pin 14,4 --- RJ45 pin 7,8
GND
MAX491 pin 6,7,3 --- RJ45 pin 4,5
Last edit: 13 Jul 2017 23:57 by danilom.

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14 Jul 2017 00:10 #95780 by PCW
I think the RX and TX polarities are reversed,
So swap RJ45 1,2 and 3,6

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14 Jul 2017 00:22 #95782 by danilom
Peter thanks for the effort, it works !

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22 Jun 2022 16:37 - 22 Jun 2022 16:39 #245607 by gernoff
Bringing this topic back from the dead........... I am looking to build the same setup:

6I25 7I77 7I84 and 7I73
I am fine with buying the 7I74 interface but am unclear on how / where  it gets interfaced to the system.

Thanks in advance.

Erik
Last edit: 22 Jun 2022 16:39 by gernoff.

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22 Jun 2022 17:44 #245608 by PCW
The 7I74 connects to the second 6I25 expansion connector (P1)

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