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						01 Aug 2022 09:47				#248781
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				hello people, kindly I need help: I would like to convert an Emco Compact 5 Cnc lathe, with stepper motors, economic Vevor servomotor (all already in my possession) and Mesa card.
I would like to know which Mesa to buy in order to manage everything and be able to run G76 and G84.
I state that I do not know anything about programming!
Is it possible to do it?
sorry my english!
					I would like to know which Mesa to buy in order to manage everything and be able to run G76 and G84.
I state that I do not know anything about programming!
Is it possible to do it?
sorry my english!
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						01 Aug 2022 11:48				#248783
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				I used a Mesa 7i96 on a small stepper powered lathe project.
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						02 Aug 2022 04:38				#248817
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				Thanks for the reply!are you used an AC servo for the spindle?			
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						02 Aug 2022 05:06				#248819
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				I used  a regular VFD and 3Ph induction motor. The 7i96 can be set up to output one channel of PWM signal, so I used a cheap PWM to analog board to convert that to the 0-10V analog signal for the VFD speed control.			
					
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						01 Oct 2022 19:53				#253197
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				do you use a spindle encoder for g76 or is it enough for a vfd or ac servo driver to read the real RPM speed, I mean, can the feedback index from the encoder be bypassed when threading?			
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						02 Oct 2022 09:23				#253232
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				Default for is the use of an encoder including  index signal. Though there is a LinuxCNC setting to accept only an index pulse per rev for threading. . You cant sync without at least the index pulse though.
Both of my lathes have an encoder driven with 1:1 toothed belts off the spindle.
If you have a 1:1 toothed belt drive between the AC Servo and the spindle, you could use the servo's encoder, but it would need to be a very powerful servo to have enough torque.
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					Both of my lathes have an encoder driven with 1:1 toothed belts off the spindle.
If you have a 1:1 toothed belt drive between the AC Servo and the spindle, you could use the servo's encoder, but it would need to be a very powerful servo to have enough torque.
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						02 Oct 2022 09:52				#253235
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				thank you very much, I asked how I could try, not to try in vain if it can't, the ratio is 1:1, I don't have any problem installing an encoder, but I'd rather avoid it if possible. the engine is roughly strong, 2.3kw and the driver reads realistically with a minor deviation in revolutions, say +-5 rpm. I'll let you know how it goes when I finish the lathe.
			
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						02 Oct 2022 10:03				#253236
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				Cool set up.
That should work fine for threading. If you try to take a cut that is too deep, the axis motion should follow the spindle into the stall, halting the tool in the thread.
 			
					That should work fine for threading. If you try to take a cut that is too deep, the axis motion should follow the spindle into the stall, halting the tool in the thread.
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