4th Axis & LinuxCNC 2.7.15 RTAI i386

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19 May 2020 19:22 #168291 by probamo
Hi All,

recently I made the 4th axis my home made CNC machine. To run it I use arch i386 RTAI kernel and Wheezy platform.

The machine has two step motors on X axis (gentry), and single motors for Y and Z axis respectively. The BoB used to operate machine is 5axis LinuxCNC/Mach3 (see enclosed link LinuxCNC Mach3 Breakout Board ) and in XYZ setup everything works like a charm. In configuration file P2 & P3 is used for X master motor and P8 & P9 is used for X follower motor. P4 & P5 for Y motor, P6 & P7 for Y motor.

Now with rotary axis I use P16 & P17 for A motor and set Axis performance later in config file as following: Steps 200, micro-stepping 64, gear ration 1:3, pitch 120 degree/rev, velocity 100 deg/s and acc 500 deg/s2. Home at 0, table travel -99999 to 99999.

When machine is fired-on, all motors are activated ready to go. All axis, double X, Y and Z works as before, however very slow move of A axis. Checking wiring, connections, cables nothing was found wrong. When I change connection and settings (swap) Z and A axis, A motor speeds up, Z is rarely rotating.

Is there anyone who could help me, give some advise, what I did wrong, what to do to get A axis running as good as other three?

Thank you!

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19 May 2020 20:04 #168294 by tommylight
At 100 deg/s, it takes 3.6 seconds for one revolution of the 4th axis, even longer if you did not raise the jog velocity in Axis GUI.
Now you should have 2 jog velocity sliders on the GUI, one for linear axis and the other for rotational axis.
You can set the velocity at 1000 deg/s, but as you are using parallel port and have 64 microstepping, it might not be able to output that high of a step rate, so you can lower the microstepping to 8 or even 4 if there are not to much vibrations. Do not forget to change the scale if you change microstepping.

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20 May 2020 18:11 #168394 by probamo
Thank you Tommy for support. The microstepping was changed to 5 (all other axis set to 5 -- metric ball screws in all three linear axis), and max speed set to 1500 deg/s. Worked well. However, during the time it happened motor was speeding in one direction and in opposite started to jerk. Driver was checked - CW5054, wiring, connections, par port cable, everything was OK. The only thing not checked is BoB. Tomorrow I'll get new one and check if that is issue for my joy.

Though I would have fine tuning and accuracy setting of the rotary axis, for pulley - gear reduction 3:1, should I set 120 or to leave 360 deg/rev as pitch, what is your proposal?

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20 May 2020 18:32 #168396 by tommylight
3 turns of the motor is 1 turn of the chuck/spindle/main shaft, right ?
Then 120 should be set.
You can try to set the step time and step space a bit longer, like 5000, and see if the jerk stops.

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24 May 2020 18:44 #168820 by probamo
Once again, Tommy thanks a lot. I set step time to 5000, step space 8000, machine started. Today I rounded the first piece of wood. Max speed revolution I could get is 90'000 which is not as fast as I thought.

In 4axis, I kept X, Y and Z axis alive. Present post-processor X values wraps around Y, outputs as A, ,which is Ok in my setup.

Cheers!

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24 May 2020 20:48 #168825 by tommylight
You are welcomed, always, or in your native language, Nema na cemu, uvek si dobro dosao.

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26 May 2020 19:20 #168996 by probamo
Hvala

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