Mesa 6i25/7i76, Driver HBS86H , 86HS85N motors won´t spin

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20 Sep 2022 14:48 #252406 by Ironmadnes
Hello everyone,
i have these combintation and just want to test the electronics, motors ets.. And... I am a noob, seems like.
I get everything to work, another much smaller nema 17 motor i have testet runs fine. Mostly with the defaults.
But these bigger ones still won´t run.

My chinese dealer said driver and motor comes preconfigured. I tested all wirings, proof it and so on.

Yesterday i got a tip out of a video to look at those values i circled red in my jpeg, also to have a look at the max. accelleration.
But i found no further information related to my combination. So i play around reduce the max. accelleration and change the values.
First by new setup, later in the machine ini file.
So the motor make a little "move" at start and sometimes when i drive the axis on the UI. (But not realy turn around!)
Then sometimes i get a red blinking LED, obviosly that means positionfailure.
But when i change that values i don´t see that failure anymore.
So seems to be a little progress, but the motor won´t spin. I testet 2 motors and two drivers out of my 4. Same result.
 
It will be nice if anyone have an idea, that steal me two weeks the afternoons.
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20 Sep 2022 15:57 #252408 by PCW
How is the 7I76 connected to the drives?
Sometimes you must use a single ended connection:

Drive Step+ ==> 7I76 +5V
Drive Step- ==> 7I76 Step-
Drive Dir+ ==> 7I76 +5V
Drive Dir- ==> 7I76 Dir-

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20 Sep 2022 18:07 - 20 Sep 2022 18:09 #252420 by Ironmadnes
I do all possible connections. First as shown at the Homepage where i sell it. Pul+/Dir+/En+ from the 7i76 to the drive, Gnd bridged, same reversed. All + and - to the drive. Only Pul+ and Dir+, same only with the minuses.
Note: When i connect the en+ of the driver to 5V from the Mesa card the drive shows a failure, equal of the rest of the wiring.

I think i do each way for 5 times...
So sadly your suggestion is testet.
But thank you anyway!
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20 Sep 2022 18:19 #252422 by PCW
Note that normally ENA should not be connected as the ENA pins
DISABLE most step drives when powered

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21 Sep 2022 10:29 #252495 by Ironmadnes
As i say, i have testet all possible wirings without crate a short.
I am more and more sure that those values in my jpeg are the mess.
I seen yesterday a video from Talla83, playing around with that values, sometimes he get the same failures. Pull failuers, and a no spinning motor.

I test it an post the results after this for the next one. Greets from Germany

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21 Sep 2022 14:55 - 21 Sep 2022 15:22 #252514 by Ironmadnes
Get it.Its a thing with the values i circled red in the jpeg i send with my initial message. Also i have a look at the "STEPGEN_MAXACCEL:" and STEPGEN_MAXVEL: at the right bottom corner at the same menupage. Or later in the calibration tool. Motors run fine with wiring PUL /DIR AND PUL- DIR-, nothing else except the motor encoder.That what i want, rest is optimisation .Hope nobody need but maybe this will help anyone.Great thanks!

I also correct values in the .ini which are have the same meaning as STEPGEN_MAXACCEL & STEPGEN_MAXVEL at other points.
    
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21 Sep 2022 16:34 #252522 by tommylight
P should be 1000 for all joints/axis if the servo period is at 1000000.
Do you get any errors when using LinuxCNC pointing to watchdog bite or lost connection?

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21 Sep 2022 17:04 #252525 by Ironmadnes
Meanwhile i have no issues with that "1", with a "1000" also no issues.
But i think on it further on.
I think Talla83 said the same in avideo, i just think on that.
So thanks for your information!

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