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25 Sep 2026 11:51 - 25 Sep 2026 13:58 #349865
by Aciera
Exactly. The other problem is that there are some people who have their work inside the code base and think that they now 'own' 'their' part of the code and are thus above having it reviewed.
Also I _very_ much hope that LinuxCNC as a project has moved past the stage where somebody can 'just add' a new GUI to the master branch.
Flex GUI 2.1.0 OpenGL 3.3 was created by Aciera
Personally, I find there are so many simulations now the alternative is downright confusing when looking for a specific sim. I think the solution is refactoring our git repo to support additional guis in a plugin type arrangement.
Exactly. The other problem is that there are some people who have their work inside the code base and think that they now 'own' 'their' part of the code and are thus above having it reviewed.
Also I _very_ much hope that LinuxCNC as a project has moved past the stage where somebody can 'just add' a new GUI to the master branch.
Last edit: 25 Sep 2026 13:58 by Aciera.
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26 Sep 2026 02:16 #349886
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I see you're keen on taking things out of context and bending totally unrelated words. No worries. Here's the context for anyone who cares:
sourceforge.net/p/emc/mailman/emc-develo...OOK.COM/#msg59393097
github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/pull/4580#issuecomment-5833848754
github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/discussions/4566
I never purported to 'own' anything, nor did I ever call QtPlasmaC 'mine'. I believe quite the opposite in fact, PlasmaC and QtPlasmaC are the product of everyone who contributed to it over the years and there have been many. It's true that I hold the distinct privilege of being called one of the "maintainers" of that portion of the LinuxCNC project. Which is traditionally how GUIs have been handled.
I feel very strongly about the work we've done; I'm proud of it in a way I don't expect you to understand. The complete ignorance and disregard of not only the history but also the literal thousands of hours of coding, painstaking reviews, diffs exchanged, emails, forum posts, spreadsheet bug trackers, passionate debates, ideas, time spent in front of a plasma cutter, etc. is ... disappointing.
Similarly it's what disappoints me about the way Chris was treated.
I apologize JT, you may have your thread back.
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Exactly. The other problem is that there are some people who have their work inside the code base and think that they now 'own' 'their' part of the code and are thus above having it reviewed.
Also I _very_ much hope that LinuxCNC as a project has moved past the stage where somebody can 'just add' a new GUI to the master branch.
I see you're keen on taking things out of context and bending totally unrelated words. No worries. Here's the context for anyone who cares:
sourceforge.net/p/emc/mailman/emc-develo...OOK.COM/#msg59393097
github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/pull/4580#issuecomment-5833848754
github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/discussions/4566
I never purported to 'own' anything, nor did I ever call QtPlasmaC 'mine'. I believe quite the opposite in fact, PlasmaC and QtPlasmaC are the product of everyone who contributed to it over the years and there have been many. It's true that I hold the distinct privilege of being called one of the "maintainers" of that portion of the LinuxCNC project. Which is traditionally how GUIs have been handled.
I feel very strongly about the work we've done; I'm proud of it in a way I don't expect you to understand. The complete ignorance and disregard of not only the history but also the literal thousands of hours of coding, painstaking reviews, diffs exchanged, emails, forum posts, spreadsheet bug trackers, passionate debates, ideas, time spent in front of a plasma cutter, etc. is ... disappointing.
Similarly it's what disappoints me about the way Chris was treated.
I apologize JT, you may have your thread back.
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26 Sep 2026 11:40 - 26 Sep 2026 13:53 #349892
by Aciera
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Just for the record:
The whole direct push rights discussion doesn't interest me in the least.
What interests me is when people directly push changes that break a pull request that has been pending for 3 weeks. That in itself would only have been a mild annoyance but when that person then comes out completely disregarding the fact that he has just driven over somebody else's work and claims that to be ok because he has done that for the last 23 years to change code he considers his 'own' and that he just doesn't understand what the issue is all about then I find that very, very annoying.
A simple 'Oh sorry I didn't see that at all' would have been all that it takes for me but apparently that is maybe too much to expect.
If you feel disrespected by having an experienced programmer making a single legitimate and constructive comment about the code you are committing to a collaborative project then I consider that to mostly your problem.
And with this I also rest my case.
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Since Chris has asked for context:
sourceforge.net/p/emc/mailman/message/59393097/
The whole direct push rights discussion doesn't interest me in the least.
What interests me is when people directly push changes that break a pull request that has been pending for 3 weeks. That in itself would only have been a mild annoyance but when that person then comes out completely disregarding the fact that he has just driven over somebody else's work and claims that to be ok because he has done that for the last 23 years to change code he considers his 'own' and that he just doesn't understand what the issue is all about then I find that very, very annoying.
A simple 'Oh sorry I didn't see that at all' would have been all that it takes for me but apparently that is maybe too much to expect.
If you feel disrespected by having an experienced programmer making a single legitimate and constructive comment about the code you are committing to a collaborative project then I consider that to mostly your problem.
And with this I also rest my case.
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Since Chris has asked for context:
sourceforge.net/p/emc/mailman/message/59393097/
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26 Sep 2026 17:27 #349897
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Aciera,
This is really hard for me to say as i was the one who nominated you for becoming a moderator here, but you consistently keep ignoring the fact this is a community of humans, and as such, we (you included) inherently make mistakes and do stuff or express in ways others might or might not like at any given point in time.
I have read everything 4 times by now, i still do not see any reason for taking things out of context and attacking Chris and others, nor did any of the other humans included in those conversations.
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Again, this is very hard for me as i absolutely admire your ability to help here with your wealth of knowledge and very concise replies to even the most complicated questions, but this?
This is really hard for me to say as i was the one who nominated you for becoming a moderator here, but you consistently keep ignoring the fact this is a community of humans, and as such, we (you included) inherently make mistakes and do stuff or express in ways others might or might not like at any given point in time.
I have read everything 4 times by now, i still do not see any reason for taking things out of context and attacking Chris and others, nor did any of the other humans included in those conversations.
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Again, this is very hard for me as i absolutely admire your ability to help here with your wealth of knowledge and very concise replies to even the most complicated questions, but this?
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