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29 Aug 2025 14:32 #334090 by johns00056
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I am putting together a complete,new, backup computer for my machine. (after a lightning storm took out my previous computer.)

I downloaded Linux-2.7.14 wheezy.iso  and used rufus.ie to make a usb image.
The new computer won't go past the boot screen. I fiddled around with the boot order etc but still no go.

I downloaded the latest version Debian 12 bookworm preempt-rt iso, made a usb image, and it starts right up to the install screen.

Is there something I need to do to make the older version start? I don't want to upgrade to the current version.because I would have to change a lot of things in my configuration.

I am running my previous backup computer currently. I suppose that I could clone the hard drive , or something like that.

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29 Aug 2025 19:00 #334101 by andypugh
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You can just try loading the existing configuration files onto the Bookworm setup. It ought to just work (I spent a lot of effort on the automatic conversion scripts)

If it doesn't work you are no worse off (if you keep a backup of the LinuxCNC folder)

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29 Aug 2025 20:03 #334120 by tommylight
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I downloaded Linux-2.7.14 wheezy.iso  and used rufus.ie to make a usb image.
The new computer won't go past the boot screen. I fiddled around with the boot order etc but still no go.

You have to disable "secure boot: and UEFI in BIOS for it to work, UEFI is usually disabled by choosing Legacy mode in BIOS for boot devices/order.

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31 Aug 2025 10:03 #334174 by johns00056
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You have to disable "secure boot: and UEFI in BIOS for it to work, UEFI is usually disabled by choosing Legacy mode in BIOS for boot devices/order.

Thanks for the help.
I tried this but  the new computer will still not boot from the thumb drive.
The old computer will boot from the thumb drive.
The new motherboard does not have have CSM (compatibility support module) when using the integrated graphics on the processor .
The internet says something about if I add a graphics card that supports VBIOS display, I might be able to gain CSM functionality.
 

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31 Aug 2025 10:18 #334175 by johns00056
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You can just try loading the existing configuration files onto the Bookworm setup. It ought to just work (I spent a lot of effort on the automatic conversion scripts)

 

Thanks for the help.
The script to automatically re configure configuration files did not work.

missing [KINS]KINEMATICS=
          [KINS]JOINTS=
From looking at an example , it looks like I will have to change the ini file joints and axes.
It also looks like I will have to add loadrt [KINS]KINEMATICS to the HAL file.
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31 Aug 2025 11:30 #334177 by JT
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My Hardinge CHNC is still running Ubuntu 10 with EMC 2.7 with no issues at all. I doubt that Debian 12 would even install on that pc but if it ain't broke don't fix it is my motto.

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31 Aug 2025 16:46 - 31 Aug 2025 16:48 #334189 by andypugh
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Thanks for the help. The script to automatically re configure configuration files did not work..


Is there any chance you can zip-up the config folder and attach it here, I will try to work out what went wrong (and hopefully fix the script)
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01 Sep 2025 00:14 #334209 by johns00056
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Thanks for the kind offer. I made good progress , today, on upgrading it by hand.
I think that it is pretty close to running.

It is a hand written configuration so I am not surprised that the script did not work.

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02 Sep 2025 12:28 #334265 by andypugh
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If the script fails then it needs attention, your config may be a useful test-case to improve the script.

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