Voltage divider for Mesa THCAD-10?

rodw wrote: The ArcOK signal needs to have something in hardware to ensure the relay contacts do not oxidise which results in intermittent/failed operation. Traditionally a pulldown resistor is used. A HS10 100 ohm 10W resistor would give 200 mA or so on a 24 V circuit, above the relay 100 mA minimum current. PCW has suggested you could use a capacitor to cause a higher current burst to burn off oxide every time the arcOK relay activates. I use a pulldown resistor.

Never had to use any of this, ever, but it is simple and costs close to nothing.

tommylight wrote:
Never had to use any of this, ever, but it is simple and costs close to nothing.

Tommy, its not really helpful to dismiss the issue when others in this thread have said:

So far my machine works fine except I'm recently experiencing arkOk issues

It is a real issue for some people so why not develop a robust solution right at the beginning when they build their machine? It won't affect other users if they adopt the same defensive design.

Rod, can you draw up those hardware options in a schematic? I think more than a few of us grunts are more comfy with pretty pictures.

I apologize to op for inadvertantly derailing your thread. I've seen this particular tangent spin off a few times. Perhaps rod or someone could start a definitive thread to address the possible solutions (with lots of pretty pictures of course)

tommylight wrote: Never had to use any of this, ever, but it is simple and costs close to nothing.

Nor I, but to your point I have a cheap ceramic capacitor on standby

The mechanical relay, in my case, was 100% necessary.

Just putting that out there only because the best answer is really to not rely on any one user’s experience(s)/advice/rants/etc. and consider all of the input and then do some of your own testing, etc. to find out what works for your table with the guaranteed-to-be-different-than-he-who-slings-definitive-advice’s hardware arrangement.

rodw wrote:

AgentWD40 wrote: That's my diagram!

I told him you could not be trusted! :evil: :evil:

(doubling volts roughly quadruples torque)

That's not accurate. More voltage will give you more torque when the torque starts to fall at higher speeds.

Your better off using more current and/or less microstepping.

The "software" and "hardware" solutions are not for the same issue, they are for two separate issues.

The "software" solution is used to overcome the effects of a bouncing contact from a mechnical relay. Almost all mechnical relays will exhibit some contact bounce. Is has nothing to do with the operation time of the relay, only the bouncing of the contacts. The lower you can set the debounce time and have reliable switching the better.

The "hardware" solutions are to overcome the effects of mechnical relay contact oxidisation/passivation. Reputable manufaturers will specify if a minimum current is required. For example a relay used in some Hypertherms requires a minimum current of 100mA @5V which equates to around 21mA @ 24V so you could use a 1200Ω resistor that would dissipate 0.48W. A simple solution would be a 0.1μF capacitor across the contacts.

It is possible that only one of the above conditions needs to be addressed or maybe both need to.