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8 years 3 months ago #114423 by tommylight
Where is the config ? I can give it a try as i do have plenty of Mesa hardware on hand (well on the table, still), must have gotten over 5000 euro worth of Mesa stuff by now so here is a list of what i have unused :
6i25 X2
7i92 X1
7i77 X2
7i74 X1
7i84 X2
7i73 X2
THCAD X1
A set of 7i92/7i77 i have in my office to do some hal programming and testing, the rest is dormant.
Some of that is for a MAZAK Micro Slant 15 i own but i do not have the time to install it. The Mazak is in perfect working condition BTW, not used at all.
Due to some strange events i am a General Manager at a manufacturing company where i was contracted to retrofit the Elumatec SBZ 130/1 and the Hurco BMC 20, so i do not have time for .....anything !
I have to make some time to test the THCAD.

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8 years 3 months ago - 8 years 3 months ago #114427 by rodw
Skunkworks, thanks, when you first spoke of this, it did not make sense to me and now it does. I know exactly the relationship between volts and torch height based on a regression analysis of 9000 readings.

So its 7.53 volts per mm with 99.4% confidence!



Thanks to everyone else for feedback. I really feel that LinuxCNC is going to catch up in the plasma cutting stakes.

Tommy, the best bet is to compile the dgarr/external_offsets branch and make play with the the Axis/external/offsets/hpid sim.
Then when you are ready, follow the instructions to make a live config. which won't take long. Just copy over known good ini file parameters as most of it will be done for you. You might need to unlink some default signals to use your own. There are also many useful tuning windows with the sim so retain as many as them as you can when making your live config. In the plasma section, I do have a nice component to parse the thcad 10 calibration but it not hard to do.
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8 years 3 months ago #114438 by islander261
Tommy

Which configuration do you want? The external offsets version or the HAL only version? I didn't get the new EO version done today because of other work. A word of warning my coding is very sloppy with many interconnected parts What is the best way to package this? Just zip the configuration directory?

John
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8 years 3 months ago #114445 by tommylight
Hal version, would like to check if i can blatantly and shamelessly steal any ideas from it ! :)
Rod, some time ago i did have a look at external offsets sim and liked it very much, but for the life of me i could not find any case i might need that. Now this THC thingy might be one of those cases where it could prove useful.
Thank you.

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8 years 3 months ago #114456 by rodw

skunkworks wrote: I played with external offset too - It was initially designed for a jog while paused solution. The offset inputs are counts. (not a big deal but odd when trying to do this type of thing) I stripped it down and tried to do a simple pid voltage loop - I could not tune it to save my life. (granted - it could be me) It has been a while - but I was thinking it was the simple tp that was integrated into it.


I had a good look at the eoffset_pid component again today. The counts are calibrated with a scale which defaults to. 0.00254 mm per count so I can't really see why counts rather than a distance offset should make any difference. But I am way out of my depth. As I wrote this, I wondered if a 1 khz servo thread is just too fast. Anyway, the OCD side of me wants to change the scale to 0.001mm because I don't do imperial units (or in this case derivatives thereof) so we'll see what happens. The other idea I just had was to skip some servo thread cycles before processing adjustments.

Anyway, my new plasma consumables arrived so I have some ceramic shields again.
Also my new misalignment shaft coupling arrived late this afternoon. (Shown here partially separated).



This is 20mm in diameter. I have to bore it out to suit my shafts. I also looked at a 30mm diameter coupling that could handle 15 Nm
of torque but after some research, it seemed best to not oversize the coupling. This one is good for 5 Nm backlash free and the acceleration forces is calculated at about 3.3 Nm so we have a 1.5x safety factor which seems adequate.

Anyway, hopefully tomorrow we will be backlash free and ready for further testing.

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8 years 3 months ago #114491 by skunkworks

rodw wrote: Skunkworks, thanks, when you first spoke of this, it did not make sense to me and now it does. I know exactly the relationship between volts and torch height based on a regression analysis of 9000 readings.

So its 7.53 volts per mm with 99.4% confidence!


After a bunch of searching online - I found a few references to .004/volt. (what I have been using) And I think that falls pretty close to what you are finding...

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