VTK based version of Vismach
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25 Oct 2025 07:27 - 27 Oct 2025 13:44 #337114
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VTK based version of Vismach was created by Aciera
This is a new version of the 'vismach' simulation tool based on VTK instead of OpenGL:
github.com/Sigma1912/vtk-vismach
Still work in progress.
For more information see the README and the comments in the files.
github.com/Sigma1912/vtk-vismach
Still work in progress.
For more information see the README and the comments in the files.
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26 Oct 2025 16:55 #337223
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That's very pretty.
Is it any easier to comprehend than Vismach? I find using Vismach rather confusing (and I wrote the docs!)
Is it any easier to comprehend than Vismach? I find using Vismach rather confusing (and I wrote the docs!)
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26 Oct 2025 17:42 - 26 Oct 2025 17:44 #337230
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It's pretty much the same. It's actually fairly straight forward once you get the hang of it but I guess that's true for everything and I must have made a couple dozen sim models by now.
ProbeBasic has machine simulation that can be setup using a yaml file (similar to what some CAM systems have) but it is quite limited compared to vismach.
ProbeBasic has machine simulation that can be setup using a yaml file (similar to what some CAM systems have) but it is quite limited compared to vismach.
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05 Nov 2025 09:45 #337876
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05 Nov 2025 12:00 #337878
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Awesome!!!
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14 Nov 2025 21:59 #338405
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Do you want to submit a pull request?
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15 Nov 2025 08:09 #338450
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I certainly could but would we want to make the python vtk module a runtime dependency?
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17 Nov 2025 21:26 #338577
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It's 52MB on top of a stock Bookworm install.
What was your motivation for doing it? Do you think that others will share that motivation?
What was your motivation for doing it? Do you think that others will share that motivation?
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18 Nov 2025 08:27 #338605
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The current opengl implementation seems dated. For example setting transparency has been broken for a while now. I'm interested in more complex simulation models that can, among other things, load 3d geometry at runtime and have a more modern look while still offering a reasonably manageable learning curve.
I had a look at using modern opengl but it is more complex than the old style we currently use and I could not get a grip on it.
ProbeBasic uses vtk for its preview display, so I had a look at that and found it quite easy to work with.
I guess it's a situation similar to GUI development, we could just have gone on using tkinter, which comes with every python installation, but GTK and later PyQt (which is also required for this variant of vismach) offered so much more capability.
For somebody who wants to build a simulation model vtk-vismach will certainly offer new opportunities but building simulation models is rather a niche activity so I'm not sure it is worth adding yet another library at this point.
I had a look at using modern opengl but it is more complex than the old style we currently use and I could not get a grip on it.
ProbeBasic uses vtk for its preview display, so I had a look at that and found it quite easy to work with.
I guess it's a situation similar to GUI development, we could just have gone on using tkinter, which comes with every python installation, but GTK and later PyQt (which is also required for this variant of vismach) offered so much more capability.
For somebody who wants to build a simulation model vtk-vismach will certainly offer new opportunities but building simulation models is rather a niche activity so I'm not sure it is worth adding yet another library at this point.
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04 Oct 2026 17:16 #350105
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I have converted my old vismach to this VTK and i must say that i am impressed with it!
My configuration is only a simple 3 axis machine.
In the attachments, my configuration (vtkvismach is in the config folder) and 3d files (these go in your nc_files folder)
Some pro's for the new VTK implementation, in my opinion:
The pins necessary for my HUD are now created in "custom.hal".
Also i added a few extra lines (classes) to vtk_vismach.py, some for my own preferences/use
My configuration is only a simple 3 axis machine.
In the attachments, my configuration (vtkvismach is in the config folder) and 3d files (these go in your nc_files folder)
Some pro's for the new VTK implementation, in my opinion:
- Smaller stl from freecad (old vismach you needed to export as .ast, now normal .stl)
- In less lines you can configure your machine.
- Model groups are a real nice way to toggle off machine components you don't want to see during simulation.
- Transparent stock!
- Runs from you config folder stand alone.
- You can start it while your program is already running, or even if your machine is not homed yet.
- Quick switching of the viewing planes.
The pins necessary for my HUD are now created in "custom.hal".
Also i added a few extra lines (classes) to vtk_vismach.py, some for my own preferences/use
- ini_work_file:
ini file reading, i use a ini file in the NC folder to specify my Job, in the ini file you can state your workpiece, raw stock and the work holding. In my example the files are read from the nc_files folder.- Syntax:
- Product_stl=ini_work_file('WorkpieceModel', 'solidname').database_read(INI_Path_File)
- Syntax:
- Polygon:
enter a polygon solid in Z direction (for example: used for my stock creation from hexbar to round)- Syntax:
- Polygon((comp),x_center, y_center, z_center, length, radius, number_sides, inscribed)
- number_sides = number of polygon sides
- inscribed = boolean = if the given radius is: read as inscribed, measured on flats (1) or measured on the points (0).
- Syntax:
- ThreadBox:
Creates a box of "wiremess" (for example: used for my working area)- Syntax:
- Polygon((comp),xmin, ymin, zmin, xmax, ymax, zmax, radius, sradius)
- xyz min and max for your corners.
- radius = the radius of the ribs.
- sradius = the radius of the sphers on the corners.
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- Small aditions, icon, View_Ori and TextHeightButtons (to keep the screen small with to many model groups).
- Made parallel the starting option.
- Changed "show overlay" from radio button to check box
- CylinderOriented, this function won't work if xystart and xyend are equal. i added some (brute force) logic to check and bypass the used matrix.
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