Hardware recommendations for VMC retrofit:
09 May 2021 03:05 #208353
by Michael
Replied by Michael on topic Hardware recommendations for VMC retrofit:
The odroid to 7i92 is a cat5 connection.
7i92 connects to 7i77 a number of ways depending on the middle you get; direct 25pin connection or db25 cable or db25 ribbon cable.
The 7i77 connects to the 7i84 or 73 via modified cat5.
I would keep the 7i92 and 7i77 in the cabinet. There will be a lot of wiring to connect to them. You also want to have a short distance between the two as possible. I think the recommended is less than 3m. The 7i92 can connect to two daughter cards via 25pin or 26 pin. So technically you could run a 7i77 and a 7i76 (not a great combo for most machines but this would give you 6 analog axis, 5 step, a spindle and dozens of io). Each daughter card could also run a serial card 7i84 or 7i73 etc. With it being in the cabinet this leaves you a ton of options for io that will be needed for actual machine function.
The odroid at the console will save you running connections back from it to the monitor and keyboard. And you can run a cat 5 from the odroid to the 7i92 in the 5m distance with little issues but I would keep this as short as you can also.
For a card in the console their are a lot of options. Tommy may be more correct with a 7i73 but it all depends on setup and what you want to do. Literally a dozen mesa serial cards that could work. The 7i84 has input and output. You most likely don't need outputs in the console. Either way the serial card in the console saves on wiring back to the 7i77 in the cabinet as it would just need a single cat5.
Here are some serial card options:
store.mesanet.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=69_70
7i92 connects to 7i77 a number of ways depending on the middle you get; direct 25pin connection or db25 cable or db25 ribbon cable.
The 7i77 connects to the 7i84 or 73 via modified cat5.
I would keep the 7i92 and 7i77 in the cabinet. There will be a lot of wiring to connect to them. You also want to have a short distance between the two as possible. I think the recommended is less than 3m. The 7i92 can connect to two daughter cards via 25pin or 26 pin. So technically you could run a 7i77 and a 7i76 (not a great combo for most machines but this would give you 6 analog axis, 5 step, a spindle and dozens of io). Each daughter card could also run a serial card 7i84 or 7i73 etc. With it being in the cabinet this leaves you a ton of options for io that will be needed for actual machine function.
The odroid at the console will save you running connections back from it to the monitor and keyboard. And you can run a cat 5 from the odroid to the 7i92 in the 5m distance with little issues but I would keep this as short as you can also.
For a card in the console their are a lot of options. Tommy may be more correct with a 7i73 but it all depends on setup and what you want to do. Literally a dozen mesa serial cards that could work. The 7i84 has input and output. You most likely don't need outputs in the console. Either way the serial card in the console saves on wiring back to the 7i77 in the cabinet as it would just need a single cat5.
Here are some serial card options:
store.mesanet.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=69_70
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09 May 2021 03:27 #208354
by htdave
Replied by htdave on topic Hardware recommendations for VMC retrofit:
Can I ditch the 7i92 completely and just plug the 7i77 into the Odroid like you would with a 7i76E?
The 7i77 has enough inputs and outputs for the cabinet, and the 7i84 or 7i73 would have plenty for the console
The 7i77 has enough inputs and outputs for the cabinet, and the 7i84 or 7i73 would have plenty for the console
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09 May 2021 11:35 #208364
by tommylight
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7i77 does not work without one of 5i25 or 6i25 or 7i92.
Or go for 7i97.
Or go for 7i97.
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10 May 2021 22:40 #208503
by andypugh
I wonder what the difference is between the 7i97 and the (does not exist) 7i77E? ie, why is it called 7i97 and not 7i77E?
Anyway, it looks like the card for the job, though it isn't cheap.
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7i77 does not work without one of 5i25 or 6i25 or 7i92.
Or go for 7i97.
I wonder what the difference is between the 7i97 and the (does not exist) 7i77E? ie, why is it called 7i97 and not 7i77E?
Anyway, it looks like the card for the job, though it isn't cheap.
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10 May 2021 23:46 #208510
by tommylight
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Pretty sure it is the same thing technically, but i recall PCW mentioning some differences, now if i could also recall if it was for 7i97 or 7i95???
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11 May 2021 11:37 #208536
by htdave
Replied by htdave on topic Hardware recommendations for VMC retrofit:
I need more io than what the 7i97 has. Can i plug a generic breakout board into the 7i97 for more io, as well as 7i84 for the console.
I will only need 4 analog servo drives + spindle. Will this free up more io ports?
Or am I best just to accpt that I'm going to need 3 mesa cards?
The only reason I'm going for the 7i84 over 7i73 is it has the terminal blocks instead of just a header
I will only need 4 analog servo drives + spindle. Will this free up more io ports?
Or am I best just to accpt that I'm going to need 3 mesa cards?
The only reason I'm going for the 7i84 over 7i73 is it has the terminal blocks instead of just a header
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11 May 2021 13:59 #208551
by PCW
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I would suggest a 7I92H +7I77+7I84 because its older and supported by pncconf
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11 May 2021 20:14 #208576
by htdave
Replied by htdave on topic Hardware recommendations for VMC retrofit:
Thanks PCW.
What cable is required to go from 7i92H to 7i77?
What cable is required to go from 7i92H to 7i77?
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11 May 2021 20:26 #208579
by PCW
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Mesa DB25M-HDR26 or similar
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