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10 May 2025 07:44 - 10 May 2025 07:47 #328133
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Hi everyone,I’ve been looking for a suitable new industrial PC for LinuxCNC with Mesa (Ethernet-connected, 7i94), but the search is becoming frustrating.
There’s a lot of great information out there, but most recommendations point to older refurbished systems that are either no longer available here (Europe) or require a lot of BIOS tuning to get acceptable latency. I’d really prefer to avoid spending a lot of time testing different systems or diving deep into BIOS settings and latency tuning.
I’m already spending enough time figuring out the electrics, HAL setup, Python interface, and machine logic — so I’m really hoping to just buy one thing that works reliably and doesn’t add another rabbit hole to the project.
What I’m looking for is a currently available, new industrial PC that:
If anyone has experience with a specific model (e.g., something from OnLogic, Beckhoff, or Fitlet2-type devices) that works well without surprises, I’d really appreciate a recommendation.
Thanks!
There’s a lot of great information out there, but most recommendations point to older refurbished systems that are either no longer available here (Europe) or require a lot of BIOS tuning to get acceptable latency. I’d really prefer to avoid spending a lot of time testing different systems or diving deep into BIOS settings and latency tuning.
I’m already spending enough time figuring out the electrics, HAL setup, Python interface, and machine logic — so I’m really hoping to just buy one thing that works reliably and doesn’t add another rabbit hole to the project.
What I’m looking for is a currently available, new industrial PC that:
- Works reliably with LinuxCNC (using the preempt-rt kernel)
- Is known to perform well with Mesa over Ethernet (7i94)
- Doesn’t require deep tweaking to get good performance
- Is ideally fanless or low-noise and compact (DIN mountable is a plus, but not required)
If anyone has experience with a specific model (e.g., something from OnLogic, Beckhoff, or Fitlet2-type devices) that works well without surprises, I’d really appreciate a recommendation.
Thanks!
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10 May 2025 13:50 #328148
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Mac Pro?
Mac Mini?
Some Apple desktop?
(not Apple Silicon, obviously)
When you want something quiet, Mac is usually what comes to mind fo me.
Mac Mini?
Some Apple desktop?
(not Apple Silicon, obviously)
When you want something quiet, Mac is usually what comes to mind fo me.
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10 May 2025 15:03 #328152
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Not a specific recommendation, but in general I would suggest
hardware with a Intel rather than RealTek Ethernet interface
(as this avoids the needed DKMS driver installation with RealTek
and newer kernels)
hardware with a Intel rather than RealTek Ethernet interface
(as this avoids the needed DKMS driver installation with RealTek
and newer kernels)
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10 May 2025 19:06 #328169
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Used "Enterprise" edition PC's worked for me always, The likes of older Dell, newish HP and Lenovo and Fujitsu.
And, yes i have several "industrial" PC's collecting dust in the shop, they are just plain PC in a strange box and with much higher price.
And, yes i have several "industrial" PC's collecting dust in the shop, they are just plain PC in a strange box and with much higher price.
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10 May 2025 19:14 #328170
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there are a number of industrial PC's on Alibaba/Aliexpress.
Echoing PCW's comments about Intel NIC. I would look for 2 NIC's but you might get more
Probably external Wifi SMA connectors. This lets you extend antennas outside of your enclosure
Also, look for a built in serial port or two for VFD etc. Some have native RS485 ports with screw terminals builtin.
They usually come with a Vesa mounting bracket to mount behind a monitor so it should be easy to mount on a DIN rail. Meanwell have a nice aluminium bracket.
Echoing PCW's comments about Intel NIC. I would look for 2 NIC's but you might get more
Probably external Wifi SMA connectors. This lets you extend antennas outside of your enclosure
Also, look for a built in serial port or two for VFD etc. Some have native RS485 ports with screw terminals builtin.
They usually come with a Vesa mounting bracket to mount behind a monitor so it should be easy to mount on a DIN rail. Meanwell have a nice aluminium bracket.
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11 May 2025 17:32 #328205
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Hi all, I’m planning to use a Compulab Fitlet3 as the controller PC for a LinuxCNC setup (Mesa 7i94T over Ethernet). My goal is a quiet, compact, low-latency machine with dual LAN and enough performance for a Qt UI (e.g., QtDragon or ProbeBasic), without excessive overhead. Here’s the configuration I’m considering:
Fitlet3 configuration:
My questions:
Thanks in advance — I’d love to avoid going down a rabbit hole if this platform has hidden caveats.
Fitlet3 configuration:
- CPU: Intel Atom x6425E (4 cores @ 2.0 GHz base, 3.0 GHz burst, 12 W TDP)
- RAM: 8 GB DDR4 SODIMM
- Storage: 256 GB NVMe (M.2 Key-M)
- No SATA drive, no WiFi or modem
- Audio: Analog audio codec module
- I/O: Terminal block with RS-232/RS-485/GPIO
- Enclosure: Standard finned top cover (rated for 18 W)
- Thermal spec: Extended range –20°C to +70°C
- TPM: Not installed
- FACET card: FC3-LAN (adds 2× Intel i210/i225 Gbit LAN)
My questions:
- Has anyone here run LinuxCNC with a Fitlet3 (or similar Elkhart Lake system)?
- Is the x6425E predictable and stable under Preempt-RT with Mesa boards over Ethernet?
- Can anyone confirm that the following BIOS options are present and can be disabled in a AMI Inc. BIOS?
- Intel Turbo Boost
- CPU C-states
- SpeedStep (EIST)
- CPU power management (set to Performance)
Thanks in advance — I’d love to avoid going down a rabbit hole if this platform has hidden caveats.
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12 May 2025 00:45 #328238
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Beware of single-channel RAM.
DDR4 single-channel is far too common.
Not sure why.
DDR4 single-channel is far too common.
Not sure why.
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12 May 2025 01:29 #328241
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Quiet PC will mean nothing in a workshop.
I've never been a fan of the Atom platform, those small form factor PC's run hot, even just sitting in an open room my industrial PC running pfsense needs a reboot every day or so in summer.
Your mileage may vary but just be aware of the heat issue.
If you want dual NICs in a small form factor I'd choose an Odroid H4 and just bung it in the CNC enclosure, my H3 has never given a issue, even when running in the Australian summer.
I've never been a fan of the Atom platform, those small form factor PC's run hot, even just sitting in an open room my industrial PC running pfsense needs a reboot every day or so in summer.
Your mileage may vary but just be aware of the heat issue.
If you want dual NICs in a small form factor I'd choose an Odroid H4 and just bung it in the CNC enclosure, my H3 has never given a issue, even when running in the Australian summer.
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12 May 2025 14:17 #328273
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Why is everyone here Austrailian?
I would still recommend the Intel Mac Mini.
You can buy a bracket for mounting from Apple (though it will set you back $100).
(The price will vary depending on your location because Apple's prices have no basis in the item's actual cost, they are solely a marketing decision.)
I would still recommend the Intel Mac Mini.
You can buy a bracket for mounting from Apple (though it will set you back $100).
(The price will vary depending on your location because Apple's prices have no basis in the item's actual cost, they are solely a marketing decision.)
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12 May 2025 14:27 #328274
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www.gumtree.com.au/web/listing/desktops/1333283465
www.gumtree.com.au/web/listing/desktops/1333056375
The nice thing about a Mac is you can control the fans with the SMC via a tool like mbpfan.
Old Apple products were really well-made.
Their newer stuff has no quality control of any kind.
But 2018 is long enough ago that I think quality will be decent.
www.gumtree.com.au/web/listing/desktops/1333056375
The nice thing about a Mac is you can control the fans with the SMC via a tool like mbpfan.
Old Apple products were really well-made.
Their newer stuff has no quality control of any kind.
But 2018 is long enough ago that I think quality will be decent.
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