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09 May 2013 22:31 #33847 by ArcEye
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There is another python library you need since linuxcnc-2.6, think it is libboost-python.

./configure will prompt you for it if it is not installed

linuxcnc has become a sea of slithering serpents over the last years

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10 May 2013 03:54 - 10 May 2013 09:36 #33858 by Todd Zuercher
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I still need to compile the actual Mb2hal driver correct?

How is that done?

Never mind, I didn't have libmodbus3 installed properly. I fixed that then recompiled and installed master and now mb2hal is installed. Now to see if I can make it work for me.
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10 May 2013 11:36 - 10 May 2013 11:39 #33864 by Todd Zuercher
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Before this thread got onto the mb2hal tangent. I had promised to post what I had learned about using modbus with classicladder.

1st thing I learned is that you can set CL to use 8 bits, no parity, 2 stop bits to communicate in RTU mode. To set this just edit that part of the clp file with a text editor.

2nd in the CL modbus config, modbus register io setup, Element = Register, so if you need to read register 24-29 you would put down 24 as the first element, and 6 as the number of elements, then in the last column you if you put 1. it would write the results of reading those 6 registers to W1-W6

3rd the type access column has several selections you can choose from

Read_INPUTS fnct-2 - This will write what is read from the register(element) to the specified I or B variable in CL (these are 1s or 0s/ on or off)

Write_COIL(s) fnct-5/15 - This will write what is stored in the specified I, B or Q variable to the register(s) specified (these are 1s or 0s/ on or off)

Read_REGS fnct-4 - This will write what is read from the register(element) to the specified W or WQ variable in CL (these are S32)

Write_REGS fnct-6/16 - This will write what is read from the specified W, WQ, or WI variable in CL to the register(s) specified (these are S32)

Read_HOLD fnct-3 - This will write what is read from the register(element) to the specified W or WQ variable in CL (these are S32) (my drives respond the same to this as to Read_REGS fnct-4, I don't know what is supposed to be different)

Slave_echo fnct-8 - (I don't have a clue what this does)

Attached is a clp file that I could start/stop and set the speed on at least one of my drives for testing purposes.

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File Name: modbus.clp
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10 May 2013 11:55 #33865 by Todd Zuercher
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One other detail specific to these AC-Tech drives.
For some reason I had to set parameter 14 to 1 (terminal only control) instead of 2 (serial keypad). The info in the manual lead me to believe that it should be set to 2, but in that setting I was not able to figure out how to clear the initial JF fault (serial communication watchdog). Once I had the drive talking with CL then I could change P14 back to 2 and it would run fine (until serial communication was lost for some reason). I will have to investigate further to try to find out what the real problem is here or if there even is one.

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13 May 2013 21:39 #33999 by bigalex
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Hi Todd.
Did you make any progress on the modbus2hal component application ?

bigalex :blink:

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13 May 2013 22:17 #34001 by Todd Zuercher
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I am still working on building the configuration files to test with. (Hal, Classicladder, and pyvcp stuff)

I am hoping to do some testing with the drives hooked up later today.
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14 May 2013 10:19 #34041 by Todd Zuercher
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Well, today was an exercise in frustration. Maybe tomorrow I'll have a clear enough head that that I might be able to formulate some intelligent questions.

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15 May 2013 11:02 #34112 by Todd Zuercher
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Well it took me nearly two days to straighten out all the i/o pins I am using between mb2hal and classicladder, but I think I've gotten it figured out. I was able to chain together a few drives and turn them on/off and set the speed.

I just have one big question that is going to need a real modbus guru to help me straighten out.

These drives registers can have data formatted in 4 different ways.

From the manual (see pg 5 in the manual attached on the 1st post of this thread)
3.1 Register Format
All registers are 16 bits. The data within these registers can take on the following forms:
• Individual bit commands (16 per register).
Example: Register #1 (Modbus Register #2).
• Individual bit flags (16 per register).
Example: Register #22.
• A chain of two 8 bit unsigned integers.
• A 16 bit unsigned integer.
This unsigned integer could in turn represent many different types of data with various scaling
rules and units, which are defined by the DATA TYPE of the register.


The register that I am currently most interested in reading is register 26
This register uses the 3rd type of register format "A chain of two 8 bit unsigned integers".
Is there an easy way to separate these two bytes, in order to send their data to separate pins?
I am most interested in getting the 2nd 8 bits by its self.

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15 May 2013 14:25 - 15 May 2013 14:35 #34114 by bigalex
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Hi Todd.
I'm not a Modbus guru but I try to help you if I can.
I'm hoping that you are using ClassicLadder Modbus to communicate with your driver.
In case it is , I usually do in this way :
|--| %W10 & 1 |-----------( %B0)---|

|--| %W10 & 2 |-----------( %B1)---|

|--| %W10 & 4 |-----------( %B2)---|
 ::::::::::::::::::::::
 ::::::::::::::::::::::
|--| %W10 & 128 |---------( %B7)---|
       |          |
       |    This is the value to AND with
       |
    This is the register
    I'm reading from Modbus

In this way you can extract each bit from the register you are reading from Modbus.
You can use this approach also if you are using modbus2hal for the communication
and Classic Ladder for the logic.
In this case you have to "copy" the register read from modbus2hal pin to ClassicLadder hal input pin.
So ClassicLadder can make the bit extracting job and the logic you need to do.

I hope I'm clear enough .

bigalex :blink:
Last edit: 15 May 2013 14:35 by bigalex.
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15 May 2013 21:02 #34131 by Todd Zuercher
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I don't think I understand completely what the & does. But if it is giving me the indevidual bit values, I don't think that will be quite what I want.

The register I am trying to work with gives the drives load as a percentage on the high bit, and the drives status on the low bit (fault, stop, accel, run,...). I only want to see the value of the low bit.

Just playing with my calculator a bit, and I think that If I use the modulus 16 of the varaible, should give me the value of the low bit I need. 256 might actualy be the right number to use but I think 16 works for all the possible values in this situation (0-11).

Thanks for the idea though.

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