My 7i76e Connection Sheet

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5 years 8 months ago #198407 by fons
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i'm working on a mill (cincinnati cim-x) there is no encoder on the mill-axis and mechanical nearly inposible to place it there
can it also work when i place the encoder on the motor and add some lines in the hal (an idea of what lines)
i like to use rigide tapping
how many puls do in need maybe 2 or 3 magnetic sensor placed on a gear in the gearbox can also work ?

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5 years 8 months ago #198430 by andypugh
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fons wrote: i'm working on a mill (cincinnati cim-x) there is no encoder on the mill-axis and mechanical nearly inposible to place it there
can it also work when i place the encoder on the motor


I think that there are probably more CNC machines with the encoder on the motor than on tha axis.

Encoders on the motor works fine, and needs no special config.

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5 years 8 months ago #198449 by fons
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when you use rigid taping the system need to know the puls/ revolution
there is a gearbox with 16 speeds
when the encoder is placed on the spindel its always the same value of pulses
not with a gearbox place in different gears
or does it mathers ? what i don't believe

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5 years 8 months ago #198452 by andypugh
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fons wrote: when you use rigid taping the system need to know the puls/ revolution
there is a gearbox with 16 speeds
when the encoder is placed on the spindel its always the same value of pulses
not with a gearbox place in different gears
or does it mathers ? what i don't believe


The spindle encoder needs to be on the spindle, yes.

But there was nothing in your previous post to suggest that you were talking about a spindle.

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5 years 8 months ago #198505 by fons
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what is the min of puls to work propper i have to make one by meselve at the outside of the gearboc
can 180puls/rev be enough ?

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5 years 8 months ago #198529 by andypugh
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fons wrote: what is the min of puls to work propper i have to make one by meselve at the outside of the gearboc
can 180puls/rev be enough ?


50 is enough for lathe threading or for gar hobbing, as at a constant speed LinuxCNC can interpolate the output from a low-count encoder.
For rigid-tapping you need to know exactly when the spindle reverses.
With 180 counts you can have (about) 2 degrees of uncertainly in the reversal position.
Does this matter? Quite possibly not. The effect is to give a slightly sloppy thread (assuming perfect Z-axis tracking) but 2 degrees with a 1mm pitch tap is only 5 microns error.

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