Mini wannabe datron build

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2 years 4 months ago #303787 by cakeslob
Replied by cakeslob on topic Mini wannabe datron build
fish, do you have any info on the legislation? since it directly related to me I would like to understand/ complain to my mp

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2 years 4 months ago #303791 by ihavenofish
There's nothing to complain about I don't think. This is nuclear proliferation treaty stuff. If your country is in NATO, EU or china, you are a bit stuffed. If you are in Canada, google "dual use" VFD and the relevant paragraphs will come up.

I am talking with lenze and they are very helpful. The gist is that they can sell me unlocked drives, but they will need to be pinned to the END buyer. So let's say you bought my machine, lenze will log YOUR details as the destination of the drive and supply the device on demand (I won't have stock on a shelf). I am unsure what happens if you then sold the machine used later on. Do you need to report that sale and the buyers data? Seems like you would need to, cause the whole point is to track WHERE this drive is to make sure its not being sent to Iran or the like in some round about way. Lenze also confirmed that generic PMSM motor drives are still restricted so that doesn't help me.

So in all likelihood, I will sell the 50000rpm (800hz drive from lenze) version of the machine to Canada and the US, and then for the sake of hassle, I will restrict everyone else's machines to 36000rpm with a stock 599hz lenze or delta drive and rewound spindle.

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2 years 4 months ago #303798 by tommylight
Stuxnet ???
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Centrifuges n stuff for enriching that green stuff that shall not be mentioned, as i do not want to end up on a list, if i ever got to US.

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2 years 4 months ago #303800 by cakeslob
Replied by cakeslob on topic Mini wannabe datron build
in canada the green stuff is something else. we mine the yellow stuff

holy shit, this export restrictions list is fascinating. restrictions on cnc machines, cmm, LDVT, certain carbide shapes

but yeah fish, im pretty sure we live in the same greater area

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2 years 4 months ago - 2 years 4 months ago #303805 by ihavenofish
ahh ok.
cool.

Want a machine? hahahaha.

I've been rolling all my numbers and am pretty close to setting a price for 2 early bird buyers. Its looking very promising. for the price of a loaded tormach 440 mine has delta servos, "high speed" atc spindle, laser tool setter, probe, thk ground screws and precision grade rails. 1500 inch per min rapids.

I hope I can figure out how to make it appeal to people who are in that zone (as opposed to the ones that want a shapeoko, or on the other end a real datron)

If the long mill guys can sell 200 machines a month, I am pretty sure I can manage 2! :P
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2 years 4 months ago - 2 years 4 months ago #303812 by ihavenofish
Ride along tool mag. I was having issues finding a sensible way to mount a more simple side tray mag, because having to grab the tool shank means you need very precise positioning. Makes it a lot easier to just have it ride on the Y axis. Holds 15 cutters up to 8mm and 100mm long. it is a half moon mag so it will spin and close itself out of the travel area with no need for any air cylinder. The laser tool setter is inboard of the mag. It needs some sort of retracting cover to keep chips off it. It has an air blast inside to keep the laser line clean. Cover should be opened mechanically by axis travel into the atc zone.

I think the magazine itself will be SLS nylon printed. That should be fun all by itself haha. (the blue spindle/z cover will also be nylon as well as the mounting parts for the way covers.

 
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