z axis reversed
03 Nov 2012 03:41 #26215
by andypugh
Is it stepper or servo?
Replied by andypugh on topic Re:z axis reversed
Andy,
Will it be the OUTPUT_SCALE setting under each individual AXIS section?
Is it stepper or servo?
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03 Nov 2012 19:18 #26224
by andypugh
This might also need you to negate the PWM scaling factor too.
Replied by andypugh on topic Re:z axis reversed
Then you need to make the encoder scale negative. Or possibly swap the encoder A and B phases.Servo system Andy.
This might also need you to negate the PWM scaling factor too.
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03 Nov 2012 23:43 #26231
by mariusl
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Marius
www.bluearccnc.com
Replied by mariusl on topic z axis reversed
Andy,
I made the encoder scale negative and the output_scale negative and got a huge runaway on that axis. I did not swap the A and B signal yet.
So I will have to keep the ENCODER_SCALE as is and make the OUTPUT_SCALE negative and swap A and B signals on the hardware connection.
I made the encoder scale negative and the output_scale negative and got a huge runaway on that axis. I did not swap the A and B signal yet.
So I will have to keep the ENCODER_SCALE as is and make the OUTPUT_SCALE negative and swap A and B signals on the hardware connection.
Regards
Marius
www.bluearccnc.com
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04 Nov 2012 03:15 #26241
by andypugh
This is a situation where things tend to cancel out. For example if you swap A and B and then change the encoder scale you will end up exactly back where you were.
(except that the PID might get confused).
I suggest you need to undo one of the changes, not add more.
Replied by andypugh on topic z axis reversed
Andy,
I made the encoder scale negative and the output_scale negative and got a huge runaway on that axis. I did not swap the A and B signal yet.
So I will have to keep the ENCODER_SCALE as is and make the OUTPUT_SCALE negative and swap A and B signals on the hardware connection.
This is a situation where things tend to cancel out. For example if you swap A and B and then change the encoder scale you will end up exactly back where you were.
(except that the PID might get confused).
I suggest you need to undo one of the changes, not add more.
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04 Nov 2012 03:26 #26243
by PCW
Replied by PCW on topic z axis reversed
what final parameter does OUTPUT_SCALE actually change in your system?
Sounds like it did nothing (so you ended up with positive feedback=runaway)
Sounds like it did nothing (so you ended up with positive feedback=runaway)
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04 Nov 2012 04:39 #26247
by mariusl
That is correct, it changed nothing when I made it negative. It does make sense though to swap the feedback and make the scale negative. Then the axis motion should be reversed with proper feedback.
I will be back at the machine on Tuesday and then I will test what Andy suggested. I will give feedback.
Regards
Marius
www.bluearccnc.com
Replied by mariusl on topic z axis reversed
what final parameter does OUTPUT_SCALE actually change in your system?
Sounds like it did nothing (so you ended up with positive feedback=runaway)
That is correct, it changed nothing when I made it negative. It does make sense though to swap the feedback and make the scale negative. Then the axis motion should be reversed with proper feedback.
I will be back at the machine on Tuesday and then I will test what Andy suggested. I will give feedback.
Regards
Marius
www.bluearccnc.com
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02 Aug 2016 00:03 #78265
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Replied by grossman83 on topic Re:z axis reversed
just recently ran into a similar issue because I have a strange slant bed lathe with the spindle on the right from operator's point of view. Once I got my axes properly inverted so that away from the spindle was +Z and away from the spindle rotation axis was +X I ran into a new problem. To go left from my point of view I had to use the right arrow. To go Right the left, up the down.... you see my predicament.
Fortunately, I was able to dig through axis.py and flip these keys solely for the purpose of jogging the axes. You could even swap the axes if you like... say because your computer is at 90 degrees rotation relative to your router/mill/lathe. The relevant lines of code are here with my mod:
Hope this proves useful to someone
-Marc
PS: if anyone knows how to mirror the display I'm still trying to figure that out... see the display assumes that my spindle is on the left, but mine is on the right.
Fortunately, I was able to dig through axis.py and flip these keys solely for the purpose of jogging the axes. You could even swap the axes if you like... say because your computer is at 90 degrees rotation relative to your router/mill/lathe. The relevant lines of code are here with my mod:
#old line commented out: bind_axis("Left", "Right", 0)
#old line commented out bind_axis("Down", "Up", 1)
#New lines below
bind_axis("Right", "Left", 0)
bind_axis("Up", "Down, 1)Hope this proves useful to someone
-Marc
PS: if anyone knows how to mirror the display I'm still trying to figure that out... see the display assumes that my spindle is on the left, but mine is on the right.
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03 Aug 2016 11:34 #78319
by andypugh
The display is in glcanon.py
github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/blob/master...274/glcanon.py#L1090
If I was in your position I would experiment with adding a
glRotatef(180, 0, 1, 0)
around that point.
I think that your lathe is basically conventional except rotated through 180 degrees on Y. glrotate is (angle, X-amount, Y-amount, Z-amount) In fact I think that those two lines there could be (90,1,0,-1) but with rotations order matters, to there might be a reason for the current two-line method.
glcanon is Python, so just changing the file and restarting LinuxCNC will work, no need to compile anything.
Replied by andypugh on topic Re:z axis reversed
PS: if anyone knows how to mirror the display I'm still trying to figure that out... see the display assumes that my spindle is on the left, but mine is on the right.
The display is in glcanon.py
github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/blob/master...274/glcanon.py#L1090
If I was in your position I would experiment with adding a
glRotatef(180, 0, 1, 0)
around that point.
I think that your lathe is basically conventional except rotated through 180 degrees on Y. glrotate is (angle, X-amount, Y-amount, Z-amount) In fact I think that those two lines there could be (90,1,0,-1) but with rotations order matters, to there might be a reason for the current two-line method.
glcanon is Python, so just changing the file and restarting LinuxCNC will work, no need to compile anything.
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