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Successfully configured with stepconf: but +Y-axis "stutters" running G-code
4 years 6 months ago #240001
by clunc
Replied by clunc on topic Successfully configured with stepconf: but +Y-axis "stutters" running G-code
% uname -a
Linux aquino 4.19.195-rtai-amd64 #5 SMP PREEMPT Sun Jul 11 19:13:27 BST 2021 x86_64 GNU/Linux
That's what I expected.
I wonder if I started with a bastard version of Debian 10. What is there is what was there before the motherboard crash, but because my initial efforts were directed at getting Linux Mint 20.3 RT working, I never intended to revisit it. It's possible I acted on that intention and mucked something.
My best bet is to do a clean (re)install of the recommended version for LxCNC 2.8 and do the RTAI kernel install on top of that.
Linux aquino 4.19.195-rtai-amd64 #5 SMP PREEMPT Sun Jul 11 19:13:27 BST 2021 x86_64 GNU/Linux
That's what I expected.
I wonder if I started with a bastard version of Debian 10. What is there is what was there before the motherboard crash, but because my initial efforts were directed at getting Linux Mint 20.3 RT working, I never intended to revisit it. It's possible I acted on that intention and mucked something.
My best bet is to do a clean (re)install of the recommended version for LxCNC 2.8 and do the RTAI kernel install on top of that.
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4 years 6 months ago - 4 years 6 months ago #240037
by clunc
Replied by clunc on topic Successfully configured with stepconf: but +Y-axis "stutters" running G-code
Andy,
Upon your remark that the RTAI kernel and LinuxCNC ought to work in Mint as well, I thought to give that a try before scrapping the Mint install.
I remembered then that the Mint was built upon the 5.4 kernel and concluded that this eliminates it for modification with a 4.19 RTAI kernel.
Would that be right? I'd need a 5.4 RTAI kernel to modify my Mint 20.3 install?
[Update: rtai.org released RTAI 5.3 back in May 2021 which I'll guess will not suffice.]
Mint20.3% uname -a
Linux aquino 5.4.177-rt69 #2 SMP PREEMPT_RT Sun Feb 20 21:43:22 CST 2022 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
As I recall, and details are fading, I hunted for a late-model PREEMPT_RT kernel first and then downloaded source for that version of the OS before compiling. Some OS versions were not candidates because no corresponding RT kernel was found.
[Update: rtai.org released RTAI 5.3 back in May 2021. I presume it won't work for a 5.4 kernel.]
Upon your remark that the RTAI kernel and LinuxCNC ought to work in Mint as well, I thought to give that a try before scrapping the Mint install.
I remembered then that the Mint was built upon the 5.4 kernel and concluded that this eliminates it for modification with a 4.19 RTAI kernel.
Would that be right? I'd need a 5.4 RTAI kernel to modify my Mint 20.3 install?
[Update: rtai.org released RTAI 5.3 back in May 2021 which I'll guess will not suffice.]
Mint20.3% uname -a
Linux aquino 5.4.177-rt69 #2 SMP PREEMPT_RT Sun Feb 20 21:43:22 CST 2022 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
As I recall, and details are fading, I hunted for a late-model PREEMPT_RT kernel first and then downloaded source for that version of the OS before compiling. Some OS versions were not candidates because no corresponding RT kernel was found.
[Update: rtai.org released RTAI 5.3 back in May 2021. I presume it won't work for a 5.4 kernel.]
Last edit: 4 years 6 months ago by clunc.
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4 years 6 months ago #240039
by clunc
Replied by clunc on topic Successfully configured with stepconf: but +Y-axis "stutters" running G-code
I am currently downloading
linuxcnc-2.8.2-buster.iso
from:
www.linuxcnc.org/iso/
which I understand will have a PREEMPT_RT kernel (4.19 I presume) so I will install the 4.19 RTAI kernel and LinuxCNC afterwards.
www.linuxcnc.org/iso/
which I understand will have a PREEMPT_RT kernel (4.19 I presume) so I will install the 4.19 RTAI kernel and LinuxCNC afterwards.
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4 years 6 months ago #240043
by andypugh
It might still work. It's easy enough to try.
There is scope for confusion here. RTAI v5.3 supports kernels up to 4.19. The LinuxCNC-provided RTAI kernel (4.19.195) and modules are RTAI 5.3
Replied by andypugh on topic Successfully configured with stepconf: but +Y-axis "stutters" running G-code
I remembered then that the Mint was built upon the 5.4 kernel and concluded that this eliminates it for modification with a 4.19 RTAI kernel.
It might still work. It's easy enough to try.
[Update: rtai.org released RTAI 5.3 back in May 2021 which I'll guess will not suffice.]
There is scope for confusion here. RTAI v5.3 supports kernels up to 4.19. The LinuxCNC-provided RTAI kernel (4.19.195) and modules are RTAI 5.3
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4 years 6 months ago - 4 years 6 months ago #240086
by clunc
Replied by clunc on topic Successfully configured with stepconf: but +Y-axis "stutters" running G-code
I downloaded
linuxcnc-2.8.2-buster.iso
and burned a DVD and booted i.
I did a graphic install overtop the existing Deb10 partitions (I have a /boot and a /root) without altering size, although I did direct them to be reformatted.
There was a bit of panic on my part when I saw DHCPv6 come up, because I don't run v6, but it seemed to get by that and continued to the end.
The only real difference was that I asked GRUB to be put on the second disk, /dev/sdb, where these new Deb10 partitions are. (There are three hard drives, and at one point I had the bootloader identically on all three.)
When the install finished, I went to boot the hdd and it failed, saying it couldn't find a partition. I hadn't simply accepted the default boot option, but looked at the proposed Debian 10 menu item with the 'e' option--and noticed that it was going to boot an "rtai" kernel! That seems like a holdover from the previous install.
I had definitely instructed the installer to reformat both the /boot and /root partitions and even to zero-out the /boot partition. (None of the Deb 10 GRUB entries on any of the disks' boot menus mentioned the rt image: only rtai.)
I was indeed booting from the /dev/sdb because I accessed a Boot Menu during booting (in fact I've tried booting from all three) so I just decided to "Start Again."
This time, the DVD drive boots but after I select Graphic Install (or Install), it hangs at the DHCPv6 step: 30 min and counting at this point. It shows an empty blue screen with an empty white bar below. I doubt it will come back unless a DHCPv6 server spontaneously appears.
I'm going to try to boot into a Live session and give it a fixed IP address, however that's done, and then launch the install again from there.
Can you tell me the pathname to the installer?
linuxcnc-2.8.2-buster.iso
and burned a DVD and booted i.
I did a graphic install overtop the existing Deb10 partitions (I have a /boot and a /root) without altering size, although I did direct them to be reformatted.
There was a bit of panic on my part when I saw DHCPv6 come up, because I don't run v6, but it seemed to get by that and continued to the end.
The only real difference was that I asked GRUB to be put on the second disk, /dev/sdb, where these new Deb10 partitions are. (There are three hard drives, and at one point I had the bootloader identically on all three.)
When the install finished, I went to boot the hdd and it failed, saying it couldn't find a partition. I hadn't simply accepted the default boot option, but looked at the proposed Debian 10 menu item with the 'e' option--and noticed that it was going to boot an "rtai" kernel! That seems like a holdover from the previous install.
I had definitely instructed the installer to reformat both the /boot and /root partitions and even to zero-out the /boot partition. (None of the Deb 10 GRUB entries on any of the disks' boot menus mentioned the rt image: only rtai.)
I was indeed booting from the /dev/sdb because I accessed a Boot Menu during booting (in fact I've tried booting from all three) so I just decided to "Start Again."
This time, the DVD drive boots but after I select Graphic Install (or Install), it hangs at the DHCPv6 step: 30 min and counting at this point. It shows an empty blue screen with an empty white bar below. I doubt it will come back unless a DHCPv6 server spontaneously appears.
I'm going to try to boot into a Live session and give it a fixed IP address, however that's done, and then launch the install again from there.
Can you tell me the pathname to the installer?
Last edit: 4 years 6 months ago by clunc.
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4 years 6 months ago #240089
by clunc
Replied by clunc on topic Successfully configured with stepconf: but +Y-axis "stutters" running G-code
It was actually easier than configuring a static IP address; I just unplugged the network cable, which caused the installer to move on to trying DHCP, at which point I quickly plugged it back in, and a dynamic address was fetched.
Before I got to this point, I remembered the console terminals and dropped down to one (Ctrl-Alt-F2) to run a 'ps' to see if I could detect the installer.
Sure enough it's running as '/bin/sh /sbin/debian-installer' iirc.
At the moment, I've gotten past the manual partitioner where again I have asked that sdb7 (/root) and sdb8 (/boot) be reformatted. It's done that and is copying files.
When it's done, I'll let it put the bootloader on the first hdd's MBR--OR WHEREVER IT WANTS TO. I'm easy, and we'll see if it'll boot of the hard drive this time. Before I let it reboot, I'll drop down to a console again and try to see if /dev/sdb8 actually has bootable -rt- image files.
Before I got to this point, I remembered the console terminals and dropped down to one (Ctrl-Alt-F2) to run a 'ps' to see if I could detect the installer.
Sure enough it's running as '/bin/sh /sbin/debian-installer' iirc.
At the moment, I've gotten past the manual partitioner where again I have asked that sdb7 (/root) and sdb8 (/boot) be reformatted. It's done that and is copying files.
When it's done, I'll let it put the bootloader on the first hdd's MBR--OR WHEREVER IT WANTS TO. I'm easy, and we'll see if it'll boot of the hard drive this time. Before I let it reboot, I'll drop down to a console again and try to see if /dev/sdb8 actually has bootable -rt- image files.
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