Gscreen - a GTK / Glade / Python based screen

cmorley wrote: Well that's too bad, but understandable. Is it because of linuxcnc's abilities or just the display screen is unintuitive to them?

Chris M

It is a little of both. I am hoping that gscreen can at least give them something that they want to at least try.

My friend has a much larger machine shop than me and they buy machines based on what controls they have on them, not by machine capabilities. The reason for this is the people that use them don't like change! He has one nice brand new lathe fitted with an Anilam 3000 control and no one will use it except him. I was somewhat shocked when he told me that.

John

That is exactly my experience, people won't change if you don't force them to do it.
There is only one other way, check what they don't like on the control and show them that
in linuxcnc it can be done like they wish.

I had the possibility to refurbish a Heckler and Koch machine and the user first won't like to use it. After I changed from axis to mocca as screen he begin to use it, because this machine is the only one with a long X travel (1460 mm) he was forced to use it for some parts, now he asked me to change also a CINCINATY machine.

As I don't like very much the usability from gscreen, I am developing my own screen layout. As soon as it is "usable" I will present it in a new thread.

Regards Norbert

newbynobi wrote: As I don't like very much the usability from gscreen, I am developing my own screen layout. As soon as it is "usable" I will present it in a new thread.

Regards Norbert

Please explain useability?

I can't attche pictures anymore?

Please explain useability?

That is for me the way you use a software.

What is the normal way to machine a part on a mill.

First you get the machine out of emergency circuits
then you will start the machine.
Now you have to reference all axis.
Now you will fix the workpiece and now you need to touch the workpiece to set the origin of the part, therefor you will have to jog around, mostly with all 3 axis. Let us say you are doing the touch off with an edge finder with 10 mm diameter, so if you toch off X you will have to enter -5 mm then you touch off the Y axis and you enter again -5 mm, ok now you put your Z-heigh mesuring block on the surface and touch on this, with normaly have a height of 50 mm if the indicator shows cero, meening you have to give an offset off 50 mm.

Now everything is done to load a program, so you switch to auto page, load the program and press start.

Wow everything is running!

Please count how many clicks you have to do to get here, don't count the jogging clicks.?
I am on 21 clicks on my screen, including entering the values.
How many clicks are needed using gscreen?
Don't you thing this are to many clicks, just to get started?
I am thinking of setting the values of the edge finder in an prefernce page, so I will save about 10 clicks to get ready (this are to enter the offsets by hand.

Hope I could explain my point off view.

And please stay on this development, I do like gscreen, it helps a lot to customize screens!

Norbert