Remote Desktop from the office, to home LinuxCNC
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26 Apr 2013 15:55 #33230
by ScottBouch
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Hi all,
I've searched this forum for guidance on setting up a remote desktop connection, but what I have found has been a little complex for a new linux user. Or the guidance is for LAN.. I need WAN.
I don't have much time at home to spend on my hobbies, such as setting up my machine, so one way around it is to use my work lunch breaks to set up the software and get familiar with EMC2.
Only problem is, I live about an hours drive away from work.
Solution: using my work Windows 7 PC, graphical remote desktop to my Ubuntu LunuxCNC PC at home. I can leave it switched on along with the router, get to work and dial it up a few hours later.
What is the simplest / easiest way to do this?
Are there any beginners step by step / idiot proof instructions?
One problem I've had with the raspberry pi forum is that some users forget you're a total beginner when giving guidance, and skip basic details.
Cheers, Scott.
I've searched this forum for guidance on setting up a remote desktop connection, but what I have found has been a little complex for a new linux user. Or the guidance is for LAN.. I need WAN.
I don't have much time at home to spend on my hobbies, such as setting up my machine, so one way around it is to use my work lunch breaks to set up the software and get familiar with EMC2.
Only problem is, I live about an hours drive away from work.
Solution: using my work Windows 7 PC, graphical remote desktop to my Ubuntu LunuxCNC PC at home. I can leave it switched on along with the router, get to work and dial it up a few hours later.
What is the simplest / easiest way to do this?
Are there any beginners step by step / idiot proof instructions?
One problem I've had with the raspberry pi forum is that some users forget you're a total beginner when giving guidance, and skip basic details.
Cheers, Scott.
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26 Apr 2013 18:12 #33234
by emcPT
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If you need a shell (command line) only it is easy, you can use ssh server in the linux side and putty for the windows side. There are probably others but this one works.
If you need like a remote desktop, I am not sure for WAN. I use something at home that I do not recall the name, but I think that it can only work inside my LAN (I use it to reach a server PC that does not have a monitor or a keyboard).
If you need like a remote desktop, I am not sure for WAN. I use something at home that I do not recall the name, but I think that it can only work inside my LAN (I use it to reach a server PC that does not have a monitor or a keyboard).
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26 Apr 2013 19:11 #33237
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What about meeting services like: Webex, Join.me, etc..?
They may time-out or I may need someone at both ends to log in...?
Any ideas for an easy solution?
Cheers, Scott
They may time-out or I may need someone at both ends to log in...?
Any ideas for an easy solution?
Cheers, Scott
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26 Apr 2013 19:52 #33241
by andypugh
Try LogmeIn (There is a free version, though they make it hard to find).
secure.logmein.com/UK/products/free/
In theory you can even wake up the remote PC, assuming it is on a hardwired connection. And you can connect from any web browser.
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Solution: using my work Windows 7 PC, graphical remote desktop to my Ubuntu LunuxCNC PC at home. I can leave it switched on along with the router, get to work and dial it up a few hours later..
Try LogmeIn (There is a free version, though they make it hard to find).
secure.logmein.com/UK/products/free/
In theory you can even wake up the remote PC, assuming it is on a hardwired connection. And you can connect from any web browser.
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26 Apr 2013 22:56 #33252
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Hi Andy, Thanks for the link!
I'm having moderate success, in that:
Now this is where I think I'm becoming unstuck..
I go to LogMeIn website, and can see the pc in the list, but it shows as offline.
I don't think the application is running or configured on my LinuxCNC PC.. So I used "Top" to see what's running, and can't find it in the list, but this list is not complete...
I have rebooted to see if that helps..
In the Wine Menu, LogMeIn appears under Programs (below a nice bottle of Shiraz), but when I click on it, the taskbar at the bottom displays a "tab" (for want of a better word) saying "Opening LogMeIn.exe", it hangs around for a bit, then sods off, and I'm none the wiser.. So if I can't start the program where the settings are, I assume the background program is also not running.
What best to try next? (This is my first experience of Wine and LogMeIn, and one of very few experiences of Ubuntu).
Thanks in advance for any more help!
Cheers, Scott.
I'm having moderate success, in that:
- I've registered with Log Me In.
- I've downloaded the .msi file to the LinuxCNC computer. Tried to run it, found I need Wine (as ever!).
- I've installed Wine, got Wine to install the LogMeIn.msi file.
- The installation didn't go to plan, it hung up with a black box for ages. I closed it off.
- In Wine
Now this is where I think I'm becoming unstuck..
I go to LogMeIn website, and can see the pc in the list, but it shows as offline.
I don't think the application is running or configured on my LinuxCNC PC.. So I used "Top" to see what's running, and can't find it in the list, but this list is not complete...
I have rebooted to see if that helps..
In the Wine Menu, LogMeIn appears under Programs (below a nice bottle of Shiraz), but when I click on it, the taskbar at the bottom displays a "tab" (for want of a better word) saying "Opening LogMeIn.exe", it hangs around for a bit, then sods off, and I'm none the wiser.. So if I can't start the program where the settings are, I assume the background program is also not running.
What best to try next? (This is my first experience of Wine and LogMeIn, and one of very few experiences of Ubuntu).
Thanks in advance for any more help!
Cheers, Scott.
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27 Apr 2013 00:26 #33255
by andypugh
Sorry, I think I have sent you down entirely the wrong track.
I hadn't realised that Logmein is Windows and Mac only, it doesn't run under Linux (which also probably means that it will be useless under Wine)
There used to be a Linux version, but it seems to have disappeared.
This page might help find an alternative.
www.makeuseof.com/tag/3-logmein-alternatives-ubuntu/
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I've registered with Log Me In. I've downloaded the .msi file to the LinuxCNC computer. Tried to run it, found I need Wine (as ever!).
Sorry, I think I have sent you down entirely the wrong track.
I hadn't realised that Logmein is Windows and Mac only, it doesn't run under Linux (which also probably means that it will be useless under Wine)
There used to be a Linux version, but it seems to have disappeared.
This page might help find an alternative.
www.makeuseof.com/tag/3-logmein-alternatives-ubuntu/
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27 Apr 2013 04:13 #33258
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Aaah dude, never mind!
At least I now know why it wouldn't work! And have learnt a bit more about Linux in the process..
The link you just sent is good.. We use Team Viewer at work, and its great, but Windows only. VNC seems to be the way to go...
Will try to figure that out next!
Cheers, Scott
At least I now know why it wouldn't work! And have learnt a bit more about Linux in the process..
The link you just sent is good.. We use Team Viewer at work, and its great, but Windows only. VNC seems to be the way to go...
Will try to figure that out next!
Cheers, Scott
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27 Apr 2013 05:02 #33260
by andypugh
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Ah, yes, here it is: www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux.aspx
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That article seems to suggest the existence of at least a beta version for Ubuntu.We use Team Viewer at work, and its great, but Windows only.
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Ah, yes, here it is: www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux.aspx
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27 Apr 2013 06:10 #33262
by arvidb
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The first thing I would do is to either (best) see if I could get a static IP address from my internet service provider, or sign up with one of the free dynamic DNS providers, like no-ip.com.
This lets you identify your home computer from the "outside". With the static IP, you would simply have an IP number for your computer; with no-ip you would have a domain name, like scottbouch.no-ip.com. But the latter is more of a hassle to set up.
With this in place, you need to install e.g. vncserver on your linux machine and some vncclient on your Windows machine.
Then you need to ensure that you can connect to the vncserver port on your linux machine (there may be firewalls in the way, your router may use network address translation which means it would have to be configured correctly, etc).
This is not in any way straight-forward even if you know a bit about what you are doing. It _is_ possible though...
This lets you identify your home computer from the "outside". With the static IP, you would simply have an IP number for your computer; with no-ip you would have a domain name, like scottbouch.no-ip.com. But the latter is more of a hassle to set up.
With this in place, you need to install e.g. vncserver on your linux machine and some vncclient on your Windows machine.
Then you need to ensure that you can connect to the vncserver port on your linux machine (there may be firewalls in the way, your router may use network address translation which means it would have to be configured correctly, etc).
This is not in any way straight-forward even if you know a bit about what you are doing. It _is_ possible though...
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27 Apr 2013 14:42 #33270
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Hi Andy, yes, i did give the website another read and realised I'd missed tge beta version in my rush earlier! Thanks.
And thanks to Arvidb, this does sound like a more 'proper' route, but as you say, complex..
I think I'll give the Beta Team Viewer a go, as its software I'm familiar with in the windows world.
In all my messing around yesterday, I think I ended up updating Ubuntu, as I now have a power button in the top right hand corner. I think I'll do a fresh LinuxCNC install, to undo all of my failed attempts of Wine etc, then install Team Viewer.
Cheers, Scott
Thanks again, Scott
And thanks to Arvidb, this does sound like a more 'proper' route, but as you say, complex..
I think I'll give the Beta Team Viewer a go, as its software I'm familiar with in the windows world.
In all my messing around yesterday, I think I ended up updating Ubuntu, as I now have a power button in the top right hand corner. I think I'll do a fresh LinuxCNC install, to undo all of my failed attempts of Wine etc, then install Team Viewer.
Cheers, Scott
Thanks again, Scott
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