LinuxCNC Uspace
12 Jun 2019 17:16 #136768
by pl7i92
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it gets bigger and bigger
i hope bigT will get lubuntu on the system soon
i hope bigT will get lubuntu on the system soon
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13 Jun 2019 05:55 #136811
by AgentWD40
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I wanted to update here that I was able to install the preempt kernel from the debian repo on my actual mint 19.1 computer. I've also managed to compile, configure, and run linuxcnc 2.9. All appears to be working as expected with the debian repo's kernel.
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13 Jun 2019 10:45 #136824
by BigJohnT
I've been doing some testing on my J1900 and the kernel you use seems to be dependent on the CPU. For example on the J1900 an older CPU 5.> the servo thread latency is ~250us, 4.19 is ~150us, 4.4 gives me ~50us. So picking the best kernel version depends on your hardware and may require some testing.
After building a few kernels I wrote a bash scrip to automate the unpacking and patching process.
gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/uspace/latency.html
Make sure you run the script as source, this means in the terminal it's dot space dot slash . ./rt.sh
JT
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Is the 4.9 kernel suitable? John's instructions are for the 4.19 kernel.
I've been doing some testing on my J1900 and the kernel you use seems to be dependent on the CPU. For example on the J1900 an older CPU 5.> the servo thread latency is ~250us, 4.19 is ~150us, 4.4 gives me ~50us. So picking the best kernel version depends on your hardware and may require some testing.
After building a few kernels I wrote a bash scrip to automate the unpacking and patching process.
gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/uspace/latency.html
Make sure you run the script as source, this means in the terminal it's dot space dot slash . ./rt.sh
JT
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13 Jun 2019 11:43 - 13 Jun 2019 11:45 #136827
by andypugh
It is probably worth documenting exactly how you did this.
Experimenting, I thought that I might have found an easy recipe for getting a realtime kernel:
This appears to work on an existing Stretch 4.9.0-9 kernel installation, but failed on Jessie. (but Jessie uses a 3.x kernel)
YMMV.
Replied by andypugh on topic LinuxCNC Uspace
I wanted to update here that I was able to install the preempt kernel from the debian repo on my actual mint 19.1 computer.
It is probably worth documenting exactly how you did this.
Experimenting, I thought that I might have found an easy recipe for getting a realtime kernel:
wget http://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/l/linux/linux-image-4.9.0-9-rt-amd64_4.9.168-1+deb9u2_amd64.deb
sudo dpkg --install linux-image-4.9.0-9-rt-amd64_4.9.168-1+deb9u2_amd64.debThis appears to work on an existing Stretch 4.9.0-9 kernel installation, but failed on Jessie. (but Jessie uses a 3.x kernel)
YMMV.
Last edit: 13 Jun 2019 11:45 by andypugh.
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13 Jun 2019 14:05 - 13 Jun 2019 14:16 #136832
by AgentWD40
Andy, your recipe looks much easier than mine! But for what it's worth here is what I did:
From a fresh install of Mint 19.1 Mate edition.
Go to Synaptic Package Manager -> Settings -> Repositories -> Additional Repositories -> Add
Click Ok and exit the package manager.
If I run sudo apt-get update now it will throw some errors about missing keys for the debian repo. If I try to update from Synaptic it fails and doesn't tell me why. From the terminal I got an error message that displayed exactly which keys I needed, they were 8B48AD6246925553, 7638D0442B90D010, and EF0F382A1A7B6500.
So from the terminal run these commands to install those keys, the kernel and install grub customizer while I'm at it:
Launch grub-customizer
In the list configuration tab find the new rt kernel, in my case it says "Ubuntu, with Linux 4.9.0-9-rt-amd64". Select it then use the arrow keys in the toolbar to move this entry to be the first listed kernel under the "Advanced options for Ubuntu" folder. I tried setting the default entry under the General settings tab but that didn't seem to work.
After I was done customizing grub click save and make sure to wait for the save to complete. Reboot and check that it worked by running 'uname -a' in the terminal to see which kernel is loaded.
At this point I went back to the Synaptic Package Manager and disabled the debian repo. I assume packages in the mint repo would take precedence but I didn't want to take the chance of creating conflicts so it's disabled for now.
Replied by AgentWD40 on topic LinuxCNC Uspace
I wanted to update here that I was able to install the preempt kernel from the debian repo on my actual mint 19.1 computer.
It is probably worth documenting exactly how you did this.
Andy, your recipe looks much easier than mine! But for what it's worth here is what I did:
From a fresh install of Mint 19.1 Mate edition.
Go to Synaptic Package Manager -> Settings -> Repositories -> Additional Repositories -> Add
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian stretch mainClick Ok and exit the package manager.
If I run sudo apt-get update now it will throw some errors about missing keys for the debian repo. If I try to update from Synaptic it fails and doesn't tell me why. From the terminal I got an error message that displayed exactly which keys I needed, they were 8B48AD6246925553, 7638D0442B90D010, and EF0F382A1A7B6500.
So from the terminal run these commands to install those keys, the kernel and install grub customizer while I'm at it:
sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 8B48AD6246925553 7638D0442B90D010 EF0F382A1A7B6500
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:danielrichter2007/grub-customizer
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install linux-image-rt-amd64
sudo apt-get install grub-customizerLaunch grub-customizer
grub-customizerIn the list configuration tab find the new rt kernel, in my case it says "Ubuntu, with Linux 4.9.0-9-rt-amd64". Select it then use the arrow keys in the toolbar to move this entry to be the first listed kernel under the "Advanced options for Ubuntu" folder. I tried setting the default entry under the General settings tab but that didn't seem to work.
After I was done customizing grub click save and make sure to wait for the save to complete. Reboot and check that it worked by running 'uname -a' in the terminal to see which kernel is loaded.
At this point I went back to the Synaptic Package Manager and disabled the debian repo. I assume packages in the mint repo would take precedence but I didn't want to take the chance of creating conflicts so it's disabled for now.
Last edit: 13 Jun 2019 14:16 by AgentWD40.
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13 Jun 2019 22:44 #136852
by bevins
Nice work!!!
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I wanted to update here that I was able to install the preempt kernel from the debian repo on my actual mint 19.1 computer.
It is probably worth documenting exactly how you did this.
Andy, your recipe looks much easier than mine! But for what it's worth here is what I did:
From a fresh install of Mint 19.1 Mate edition.
Go to Synaptic Package Manager -> Settings -> Repositories -> Additional Repositories -> Adddeb http://deb.debian.org/debian stretch main
Click Ok and exit the package manager.
If I run sudo apt-get update now it will throw some errors about missing keys for the debian repo. If I try to update from Synaptic it fails and doesn't tell me why. From the terminal I got an error message that displayed exactly which keys I needed, they were 8B48AD6246925553, 7638D0442B90D010, and EF0F382A1A7B6500.
So from the terminal run these commands to install those keys, the kernel and install grub customizer while I'm at it:
sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 8B48AD6246925553 7638D0442B90D010 EF0F382A1A7B6500 sudo add-apt-repository ppa:danielrichter2007/grub-customizer sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install linux-image-rt-amd64 sudo apt-get install grub-customizer
Launch grub-customizergrub-customizer
In the list configuration tab find the new rt kernel, in my case it says "Ubuntu, with Linux 4.9.0-9-rt-amd64". Select it then use the arrow keys in the toolbar to move this entry to be the first listed kernel under the "Advanced options for Ubuntu" folder. I tried setting the default entry under the General settings tab but that didn't seem to work.
After I was done customizing grub click save and make sure to wait for the save to complete. Reboot and check that it worked by running 'uname -a' in the terminal to see which kernel is loaded.
At this point I went back to the Synaptic Package Manager and disabled the debian repo. I assume packages in the mint repo would take precedence but I didn't want to take the chance of creating conflicts so it's disabled for now.
Nice work!!!
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13 Jun 2019 23:27 - 13 Jun 2019 23:27 #136854
by andypugh
Thanks.
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Maybe, but simple is no good if it doesn't work.Andy, your recipe looks much easier than mine!
But for what it's worth here is what I did:
Thanks.
Last edit: 13 Jun 2019 23:27 by andypugh.
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07 Jul 2019 18:13 #138814
by persei8
Replied by persei8 on topic LinuxCNC Uspace
In trying to update OpenGL drivers so I can run qtpyvcp, I totally borked my whole system so I did a fresh install of debian 10 (buster) as stretch seems no longer available. Trying to install linuxcnc-uspace has several unmet dependencies which I am unable to resolve. Will the instructions be updated any time soon to include buster? If not, I can go back to stretch (I hope).
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08 Jul 2019 10:59 #138853
by BigJohnT
Replied by BigJohnT on topic LinuxCNC Uspace
Don't know how "soon" but I did download Debian 10 this morning.
Try using the VTK display widget instead of the Gremlin display widget.
JT
Try using the VTK display widget instead of the Gremlin display widget.
JT
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08 Jul 2019 11:34 #138855
by persei8
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When I posted, I didn't realize buster was only released a couple days prior, so of course it is completely unreasonable to expect you to be on it already. 
I redid a fresh install of stretch using your excellent instructions and everything is restored. Thankfully, I make periodic backups.
I redid a fresh install of stretch using your excellent instructions and everything is restored. Thankfully, I make periodic backups.
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