Unstable ETHERCAT during network connection
28 Aug 2023 18:40 - 28 Aug 2023 18:40 #279193
by foxington
Unstable ETHERCAT during network connection was created by foxington
hello folks,
have anybody had experiences with weird behavior of ethercat, when there are more network adapters on board?
I have hooked up ethercat on first enp25s0 with generic driver(original for ethernet is e1000e) and second enp0s16 is for ethernet with (8190too realtek).
When I have plugged and installed ethercat on single of them, it works fine.. But if I connect ethernet on one of them and ethercat on other of them at same time, ethernet works just fine and ethercat starting freezing... drivers go to bootup menu and lcec crached... should be there some problem with kernel or something else?
Where can I just started digging?
here is hwls
debian
description: Computer
width: 64 bits
capabilities: smp vsyscall32
*-core
description: Motherboard
physical id: 0
*-memory
description: System memory
physical id: 0
size: 4GiB
*-cpu
product: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz
vendor: Intel Corp.
physical id: 1
bus info: cpu@0
size: 2992MHz
capacity: 3GHz
width: 64 bits
capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx x86-64 constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl cpuid aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx smx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm sse4_1 xsave lahf_lm pti tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority dtherm cpufreq
*-pci
description: Host bridge
product: 4 Series Chipset DRAM Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 100
bus info: pci@0000:00:00.0
version: 03
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
*-display:0
description: VGA compatible controller
product: 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 2
bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0
version: 03
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
resources: irq:16 memory:f0000000-f03fffff memory:e0000000-efffffff ioport:2230(size=8) memory:c0000-dffff
*-display:1 UNCLAIMED
description: Display controller
product: 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 2.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:02.1
version: 03
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: bus_master cap_list
configuration: latency=0
resources: memory:f0400000-f04fffff
*-communication:0
description: Communication controller
product: 4 Series Chipset HECI Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 3
bus info: pci@0000:00:03.0
version: 03
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=mei_me latency=0
resources: irq:30 memory:f0527100-f052710f
*-communication:1
description: Serial controller
product: 4 Series Chipset Serial KT Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 3.3
bus info: pci@0000:00:03.3
version: 03
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: 16550 bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=serial latency=0
resources: irq:17 ioport:2248(size=8) memory:f0524000-f0524fff
*-network
description: Ethernet interface
product: 82567LM-3 Gigabit Network Connection
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 19
bus info: pci@0000:00:19.0
logical name: enp0s25
version: 02
serial: 1c:c1:de:53:03:7b
capacity: 1Gbit/s
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd 1000bt-fd autonegotiation
configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=e1000e driverversion=3.2.6-k firmware=0.5-3 latency=0 link=no multicast=yes port=twisted pair
resources: irq:28 memory:f0500000-f051ffff memory:f0525000-f0525fff ioport:2100(size=32)
*-usb:0
description: USB controller
product: 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1a
bus info: pci@0000:00:1a.0
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: uhci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0
resources: irq:20 ioport:2120(size=32)
*-usb:1
description: USB controller
product: 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1a.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:1a.1
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: uhci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0
resources: irq:21 ioport:2140(size=32)
*-usb:2
description: USB controller
product: 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #6
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1a.2
bus info: pci@0000:00:1a.2
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: uhci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0
resources: irq:22 ioport:2160(size=32)
*-usb:3
description: USB controller
product: 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1a.7
bus info: pci@0000:00:1a.7
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: ehci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ehci-pci latency=0
resources: irq:22 memory:f0526800-f0526bff
*-multimedia
description: Audio device
product: 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1b
bus info: pci@0000:00:1b.0
version: 02
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=snd_hda_intel latency=0
resources: irq:31 memory:f0520000-f0523fff
*-pci:0
description: PCI bridge
product: 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) PCI Express Port 1
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1c
bus info: pci@0000:00:1c.0
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pci normal_decode bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=pcieport
resources: irq:0 ioport:3000(size=4096) memory:f8000000-f81fffff ioport:f8200000(size=2097152)
*-pci:1
description: PCI bridge
product: 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) PCI Express Port 2
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1c.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:1c.1
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pci normal_decode bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=pcieport
resources: irq:21 ioport:4000(size=4096) memory:f8400000-f85fffff ioport:f8600000(size=2097152)
*-usb:4
description: USB controller
product: 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1d
bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.0
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: uhci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0
resources: irq:20 ioport:2180(size=32)
*-usb:5
description: USB controller
product: 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1d.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.1
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: uhci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0
resources: irq:21 ioport:21a0(size=32)
*-usb:6
description: USB controller
product: 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1d.2
bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.2
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: uhci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0
resources: irq:22 ioport:21c0(size=32)
*-usb:7
description: USB controller
product: 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1d.7
bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.7
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: ehci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ehci-pci latency=0
resources: irq:20 memory:f0526c00-f0526fff
*-pci:2
description: PCI bridge
product: 82801 PCI Bridge
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1e
bus info: pci@0000:00:1e.0
version: a2
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pci subtractive_decode bus_master cap_list
resources: ioport:1000(size=4096) memory:f0600000-f06fffff
*-network
description: Ethernet interface
product: RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:10:00.0
logical name: enp16s0
version: 10
serial: 00:e0:1c:3c:60:a8
size: 10Mbit/s
capacity: 100Mbit/s
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: bus_master cap_list rom ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation
configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=8139too driverversion=0.9.28 duplex=half latency=32 link=no maxlatency=64 mingnt=32 multicast=yes port=MII speed=10Mbit/s
resources: irq:20 ioport:1100(size=256) memory:f0600000-f06000ff memory:f0620000-f063ffff
*-isa
description: ISA bridge
product: 82801JDO (ICH10DO) LPC Interface Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1f
bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.0
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: isa bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=lpc_ich latency=0
resources: irq:0
*-sata
description: SATA controller
product: 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) SATA AHCI Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1f.2
bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.2
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: sata ahci_1.0 bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ahci latency=0
resources: irq:29 ioport:2250(size=8) ioport:2268(size=4) ioport:2258(size=8) ioport:226c(size=4) ioport:21e0(size=32) memory:f0526000-f05267ff
*-pnp00:00
product: PnP device PNP0b00
physical id: 2
capabilities: pnp
configuration: driver=rtc_cmos
*-pnp00:01
product: PnP device PNP0f13
physical id: 3
capabilities: pnp
configuration: driver=i8042 aux
*-pnp00:02
product: PnP device PNP0303
physical id: 4
capabilities: pnp
configuration: driver=i8042 kbd
*-pnp00:03
product: PnP device PNP0501
physical id: 5
capabilities: pnp
configuration: driver=serial
*-pnp00:04
product: PnP device IFX0102
physical id: 6
capabilities: pnp
configuration: driver=tpm_tis
*-pnp00:05
product: PnP device PNP0c02
physical id: 7
capabilities: pnp
configuration: driver=system
*-pnp00:06
product: PnP device PNP0c02
physical id: 8
capabilities: pnp
configuration: driver=system
*-pnp00:07
product: PnP device PNP0c02
physical id: 9
capabilities: pnp
configuration: driver=system
*-pnp00:08
product: PnP device PNP0c01
physical id: a
capabilities: pnp
configuration: driver=system
currently I am using older hybrid iso with prepripared autoinstallation from dominik braun with kernel
is this installation tested? should be solution for me?
thanks
regards Slav
have anybody had experiences with weird behavior of ethercat, when there are more network adapters on board?
I have hooked up ethercat on first enp25s0 with generic driver(original for ethernet is e1000e) and second enp0s16 is for ethernet with (8190too realtek).
When I have plugged and installed ethercat on single of them, it works fine.. But if I connect ethernet on one of them and ethercat on other of them at same time, ethernet works just fine and ethercat starting freezing... drivers go to bootup menu and lcec crached... should be there some problem with kernel or something else?
Where can I just started digging?
here is hwls
Warning: Spoiler!
debian
description: Computer
width: 64 bits
capabilities: smp vsyscall32
*-core
description: Motherboard
physical id: 0
*-memory
description: System memory
physical id: 0
size: 4GiB
*-cpu
product: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz
vendor: Intel Corp.
physical id: 1
bus info: cpu@0
size: 2992MHz
capacity: 3GHz
width: 64 bits
capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx x86-64 constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl cpuid aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx smx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm sse4_1 xsave lahf_lm pti tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority dtherm cpufreq
*-pci
description: Host bridge
product: 4 Series Chipset DRAM Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 100
bus info: pci@0000:00:00.0
version: 03
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
*-display:0
description: VGA compatible controller
product: 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 2
bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0
version: 03
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
resources: irq:16 memory:f0000000-f03fffff memory:e0000000-efffffff ioport:2230(size=8) memory:c0000-dffff
*-display:1 UNCLAIMED
description: Display controller
product: 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 2.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:02.1
version: 03
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: bus_master cap_list
configuration: latency=0
resources: memory:f0400000-f04fffff
*-communication:0
description: Communication controller
product: 4 Series Chipset HECI Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 3
bus info: pci@0000:00:03.0
version: 03
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=mei_me latency=0
resources: irq:30 memory:f0527100-f052710f
*-communication:1
description: Serial controller
product: 4 Series Chipset Serial KT Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 3.3
bus info: pci@0000:00:03.3
version: 03
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: 16550 bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=serial latency=0
resources: irq:17 ioport:2248(size=8) memory:f0524000-f0524fff
*-network
description: Ethernet interface
product: 82567LM-3 Gigabit Network Connection
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 19
bus info: pci@0000:00:19.0
logical name: enp0s25
version: 02
serial: 1c:c1:de:53:03:7b
capacity: 1Gbit/s
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd 1000bt-fd autonegotiation
configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=e1000e driverversion=3.2.6-k firmware=0.5-3 latency=0 link=no multicast=yes port=twisted pair
resources: irq:28 memory:f0500000-f051ffff memory:f0525000-f0525fff ioport:2100(size=32)
*-usb:0
description: USB controller
product: 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1a
bus info: pci@0000:00:1a.0
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: uhci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0
resources: irq:20 ioport:2120(size=32)
*-usb:1
description: USB controller
product: 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1a.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:1a.1
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: uhci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0
resources: irq:21 ioport:2140(size=32)
*-usb:2
description: USB controller
product: 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #6
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1a.2
bus info: pci@0000:00:1a.2
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: uhci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0
resources: irq:22 ioport:2160(size=32)
*-usb:3
description: USB controller
product: 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1a.7
bus info: pci@0000:00:1a.7
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: ehci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ehci-pci latency=0
resources: irq:22 memory:f0526800-f0526bff
*-multimedia
description: Audio device
product: 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1b
bus info: pci@0000:00:1b.0
version: 02
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=snd_hda_intel latency=0
resources: irq:31 memory:f0520000-f0523fff
*-pci:0
description: PCI bridge
product: 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) PCI Express Port 1
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1c
bus info: pci@0000:00:1c.0
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pci normal_decode bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=pcieport
resources: irq:0 ioport:3000(size=4096) memory:f8000000-f81fffff ioport:f8200000(size=2097152)
*-pci:1
description: PCI bridge
product: 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) PCI Express Port 2
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1c.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:1c.1
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pci normal_decode bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=pcieport
resources: irq:21 ioport:4000(size=4096) memory:f8400000-f85fffff ioport:f8600000(size=2097152)
*-usb:4
description: USB controller
product: 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1d
bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.0
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: uhci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0
resources: irq:20 ioport:2180(size=32)
*-usb:5
description: USB controller
product: 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1d.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.1
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: uhci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0
resources: irq:21 ioport:21a0(size=32)
*-usb:6
description: USB controller
product: 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1d.2
bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.2
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: uhci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0
resources: irq:22 ioport:21c0(size=32)
*-usb:7
description: USB controller
product: 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1d.7
bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.7
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: ehci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ehci-pci latency=0
resources: irq:20 memory:f0526c00-f0526fff
*-pci:2
description: PCI bridge
product: 82801 PCI Bridge
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1e
bus info: pci@0000:00:1e.0
version: a2
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pci subtractive_decode bus_master cap_list
resources: ioport:1000(size=4096) memory:f0600000-f06fffff
*-network
description: Ethernet interface
product: RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:10:00.0
logical name: enp16s0
version: 10
serial: 00:e0:1c:3c:60:a8
size: 10Mbit/s
capacity: 100Mbit/s
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: bus_master cap_list rom ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation
configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=8139too driverversion=0.9.28 duplex=half latency=32 link=no maxlatency=64 mingnt=32 multicast=yes port=MII speed=10Mbit/s
resources: irq:20 ioport:1100(size=256) memory:f0600000-f06000ff memory:f0620000-f063ffff
*-isa
description: ISA bridge
product: 82801JDO (ICH10DO) LPC Interface Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1f
bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.0
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: isa bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=lpc_ich latency=0
resources: irq:0
*-sata
description: SATA controller
product: 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) SATA AHCI Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1f.2
bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.2
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: sata ahci_1.0 bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ahci latency=0
resources: irq:29 ioport:2250(size=8) ioport:2268(size=4) ioport:2258(size=8) ioport:226c(size=4) ioport:21e0(size=32) memory:f0526000-f05267ff
*-pnp00:00
product: PnP device PNP0b00
physical id: 2
capabilities: pnp
configuration: driver=rtc_cmos
*-pnp00:01
product: PnP device PNP0f13
physical id: 3
capabilities: pnp
configuration: driver=i8042 aux
*-pnp00:02
product: PnP device PNP0303
physical id: 4
capabilities: pnp
configuration: driver=i8042 kbd
*-pnp00:03
product: PnP device PNP0501
physical id: 5
capabilities: pnp
configuration: driver=serial
*-pnp00:04
product: PnP device IFX0102
physical id: 6
capabilities: pnp
configuration: driver=tpm_tis
*-pnp00:05
product: PnP device PNP0c02
physical id: 7
capabilities: pnp
configuration: driver=system
*-pnp00:06
product: PnP device PNP0c02
physical id: 8
capabilities: pnp
configuration: driver=system
*-pnp00:07
product: PnP device PNP0c02
physical id: 9
capabilities: pnp
configuration: driver=system
*-pnp00:08
product: PnP device PNP0c01
physical id: a
capabilities: pnp
configuration: driver=system
currently I am using older hybrid iso with prepripared autoinstallation from dominik braun with kernel
Warning: Spoiler!
user@debian:~$ uname -a
Linux debian 4.19.0-11-rt-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Debian 4.19.146-1 (2020-09-17) x86_64 GNU/Linux
Linux debian 4.19.0-11-rt-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Debian 4.19.146-1 (2020-09-17) x86_64 GNU/Linux
is this installation tested? should be solution for me?
thanks
regards Slav
Last edit: 28 Aug 2023 18:40 by foxington.
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28 Aug 2023 21:12 #279215
by rodw
Replied by rodw on topic Unstable ETHERCAT during network connection
Corbett got a bit ahead of himself while Etherlabmaster were finalising mainlining their Debs to their final official repository.
THe simpler approach is here forum.linuxcnc.org/ethercat/45336-etherc...step-by-step?start=0
I've updated it to make it as simple as possible including hosting a repository for the Linucnc ethercat driver.
If you were starting from scratch, download my .ISO linked at the top of the first post and all the repositories are installed so everything can be installed in one line using apt get
THe simpler approach is here forum.linuxcnc.org/ethercat/45336-etherc...step-by-step?start=0
I've updated it to make it as simple as possible including hosting a repository for the Linucnc ethercat driver.
If you were starting from scratch, download my .ISO linked at the top of the first post and all the repositories are installed so everything can be installed in one line using apt get
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