Breakaway torch carrier design

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4 years 9 months ago #230703 by tommylight

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4 years 9 months ago #230705 by dlv
Replied by dlv on topic Breakaway torch carrier design
RNJFAB do you have those magnets on both sides, attracting each other or just a metal plate on one side? They're a LOT stronger if attracting each other. I've got 20x3mm and if I put just two of them together I can't pull them apart. I've got the kind with a hole in the middle.

But full disclosure I haven't built this yet. So I'll definitely update on how it goes.

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4 years 9 months ago #230707 by spumco
Here's a design I made that's cheap, been working well for 4 years and >200k pierces with no accidental activations.
  • Z-plate is aluminum, and there are 4/ea V-bearings mounted to it.
    • Two of the bearings are on eccentrics so they can tension the slider.
    • Float switch mounted on Z-plate, triggered by slider
  • Slider is a piece of 1/8" steel plate
    • Edges are beveled/rounded and is captured by the V-bearings
    • 3 holes drilled in it to locate the bearing balls on the carrier plate
    • Microswitch (post-type), NC, triggered by the carrier plate being in place.  Switch wires are routed through the Z-plate and up the back.
  • Carrier plate is aluminum and has
    • 3/ea 3/8" bearing balls pressed in to undersized flat-bottom holes.  Holes are just deep enoughso the ball stick out a bit - CAD helps here.
    • 3/ea 1/2"x1/4 magnets pressed & epoxied in

Holes in slider can be easily adjusted (chamfer, size) for an appropriate break-away force in all directions.  I found that to get a good 'feel', the balls should be buried about 1/3 the diameter of the ball when the magnets are touching the slider plate and slightly chamfered.

The dimensions are also important - the distance between the magnets top to bottom should be fairly short, otherwise you wind up with much stiffer break-away force front to back than rotationally.  The torch should have quite a lot of leverage.

Hope it helps.

-Ralph
     
 
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4 years 9 months ago #230725 by rodw
Replied by rodw on topic Breakaway torch carrier design
There is another really simple torch breakaway and holder designed by seanp on the plasma spider forum.
It uses 3 ball bearings tig welded from the back that locate into holes on the front pieces. The magnets used  then don't really matter.

I am With Andy, Don't use more than 3 location points.

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4 years 9 months ago #230727 by RNJFAB
I just have the magnets onto a steel plate. 

when I tested mine made no real difference if it was onto the magnet or steel.

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