Rods "Spaceship" Scratch built Plasma Cutter build

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7 years 8 months ago - 7 years 8 months ago #126173 by Grotius
Hi,

Rod, nice to see you cutting again !! I hope you get out the best of your machine and that you can build up some plasma experience.

This is orginal footage of NASA

109:21:07 Aldrin: Did you get the MESA out?
109:21:09 Armstrong: I'm going to pull it now. (Pause)
109:21:18 Armstrong: Houston, the MESA came down all right.
109:21:22 McCandless: (This is) Houston. Roger. We copy. Standing by for your TV.
109:22:48 McCandless: Okay. Neil, we can see you (on the TV) coming down the ladder now. (Pause)
109:24:23 Armstrong: That's one small step for (a) man; one giant leap for mankind. (Long Pause) :woohoo:

I will contact the TD if we can shorten the arc-ok time. But, i was thinking.
With Analog in 0-10volt you can do your own ark-ok. So i think that is a more integrated way to go on with arc-ok.
I will ask TD for the arc-ok timing diagram. That is more important. It can be that they have used something we don't expect.

Rod, thanks for letting me in with C coding. I started a new project, reading in dxf data to make a fast dxf2gcode converter.
I will work on this coming mont's. Ethercat is succesfull now. And OpenCV is doing more then Beckhoff presented at ISE.
So i am very exited about our power.

See my code. It's basic, but I am still learning every day. At some day i will be as good as Andy.
I think one day, we will become legend's. Just like Elon Musk. He opensourced his patent's. He is on the good way.

Warning: Spoiler!
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7 years 8 months ago #126175 by rodw
Thanks guys,

John, I appreciate your feedback. I have not deviated off 80 amps as thats what I dialed in the PID at and also I have not got a Sheetcam post that works. I wrote it last night so I should be good to go. Then I'll try different amperages. I was unable to get rid of the low speed dross at 80 amps.

The ArcOK is a lot faster than I'm used to and the plot shows between 0.2 to 0.3 seconds. I'll plot one of the spot holes as it terminates as soon as the ArcOK signal arrives.

Yes, I want to experiment with holes. I think you can automate that adjustment in Sheetcam post processor based on an arc radius so I'll see where that takes me too.

Grotius, thanks for your help too. C is an amazing language, very efficient. Read code written by others (Say LinuxCNC) and you will learn a lot. When you find something you don't understand , google it. Also if you do not yet understand pointers, you must learn that now. Then structures and pointers to structures where you see the -> construct. They are also vital! I once wrote an inventory system for an apple packing shed that fitted into a 64k handheld barcode reader terminal. Every byte counted so I learnt what is the efficient way to do things.

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7 years 8 months ago #126176 by rodw

islander261 wrote: The arcok signal from the TD power supply is really slow to come on. I use no pierce delay on 2mm and still get a start divot.


Forgot to mention Beefy used a ACS758 current sensor wired into the electrodes at one stage so he could watch for the rise in arc voltage and decide at what point to synthesise an ArcOK signal. This gave him a much faster response. I have one here but its only 50 amps. Pay for postage and its yours! (But ebay might be cheaper than our postage....)

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7 years 8 months ago - 7 years 8 months ago #126177 by Grotius
Yes, I want to experiment with holes. I think you can automate that adjustment in Sheetcam post processor based on an arc radius so I'll see where that takes me too.

In sheetcam use code snipped. You can add a code snipped for small shapes like a cirlce. You can decrease speed's for shapes. You can do a slower lead in or lead out etc. But if you really want to experiment with holes, i can give you a tip.

Make a power connection to your TD. Then do a hot start, cut, and slope down. Try this for fun, just like a welding application.
It's really efficient, because 90% of the cutting path, the used power is too high. I think you can call this synergic plasma.
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7 years 8 months ago #126188 by rodw
Well I have found I can't draw parts for nuts. Which is why I wanted to try this part first. A friend suggested not to pierce for the holes and just cut a slot into them which worked pretty well. I did have to clean them out with a drill. You'll see the breakaway got some exercise at the end of the cut. I have to work out how to write a kerf crossing component. Sheetcam chose a very odd place to start and there was no steel there at the end of the cut.



There is a render of the completed assembly earlier back on the thread. The cut part bolted up for fit (with the aid of an angle grinder. At least the bolt holes were in the right place! Bloody car parts, you assume they are symetric but they aren't.

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These ones I knew were OK.

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Anyway, at least I can get parts going super easy with Sheetcam now so I can try different settings.

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7 years 8 months ago #126194 by racedirector
Wow you guys, I never knew plasma was so hard. Was thinking of building one in the future, no so sure now.

Great work getting yours running Rod, mighty impressed!!!
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