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Mazak Micro Slant 15 Retrofit
3 years 11 months ago #257549
by andypugh
For a 5V excitation voltage the output at 0 degrees of shaft rotation might be a 5V p-p 10kHz signal on the S pair and a 0V p-p signal on C.
Then at 45 degrees it would be a 3.53 V 10kHz signal on the S pair and also 3,53V p-p signal on the C pair.
At 225 degrees rotation there would be a signal that looks identical to 45 degrees, but out of phase with the excitation voltage. If the voltages are sampled at the peak of the excitation signal then the measured amplitude would be -3.53 on both.
The 7i49 manual says "The 7I49 uses a oversampling A-D followed by a tracking filter."
Replied by andypugh on topic Mazak Micro Slant 15 Retrofit
The zero crossings don't tell you much, it is the relative amplitudes of the two outputs that indicate the angle, and there is often only one electrical cycle per shaft rotation. It is necessary to measure analogue voltages.I'd have to ask PCW, my gut tells ne that the resolver input gets slapped with clipping diodes to a square wave it then looks at the zero crossings, and converts that into a count cycle and calculates angles against a tpu in the asic.
but that's how automotive stuff handles those kinds of signals.
For a 5V excitation voltage the output at 0 degrees of shaft rotation might be a 5V p-p 10kHz signal on the S pair and a 0V p-p signal on C.
Then at 45 degrees it would be a 3.53 V 10kHz signal on the S pair and also 3,53V p-p signal on the C pair.
At 225 degrees rotation there would be a signal that looks identical to 45 degrees, but out of phase with the excitation voltage. If the voltages are sampled at the peak of the excitation signal then the measured amplitude would be -3.53 on both.
The 7i49 manual says "The 7I49 uses a oversampling A-D followed by a tracking filter."
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3 years 11 months ago #257562
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for my prior knowledge and knowledge, i see this as very high mathematics.. something that is unfathomable to me, if I had a card and a resolver with me and if I tried something, i would probably have an answer.. I wanted to help my friend for that robot to do the work.. he plans what he knows in terms of mach 3, the tech option and to weld..I convince him that linux is much better but also more complicated...so we'll see in the coming period.. my wish is to make a milling robot from an existing arm in the future. thank you all
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3 years 11 months ago #257577
by tommylight
Replied by tommylight on topic Mazak Micro Slant 15 Retrofit
Using mach3 to control a robot arm is utter waste of time.
Trying to use mach3 with resolvers is suicide.
Do not know how to explain that shorter.
Trying to use mach3 with resolvers is suicide.
Do not know how to explain that shorter.
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3 years 11 months ago - 3 years 11 months ago #257578
by smc.collins
Replied by smc.collins on topic Mazak Micro Slant 15 Retrofit
personally, I'd use absolute position encoders they communicate rs485 serial, mod bus, can bus etc. are relatively cheap and well supported. so persistent position data is really nice in a confined space. iirc you can avoid homing
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3 years 10 months ago #258995
by tommylight
Replied by tommylight on topic Mazak Micro Slant 15 Retrofit
Got some time last night to wire the encoders on both axis, found the drive enables and did some tests, but this is going te be tough, i can not remove the motors while doing initial tuning.
Have to figure out the encoder scale, that is easy, then try to figure out the correct directions, this is tricky as last night i did change the encoder direction and the Z axis moved over 70mm till i disabled the drives!
Not smart enabling those manually, 1.5KW motors on ballscrews can do a lot of damage.
If i get the chance, i will wire enables to Mesa 7i77 or 7i84 and do some tuning.
Also, the drives have switches labeled P, 0, V, pretty sure i have to set those to V now, they are in the P possition. Guessing those are for Position and Velocity mode....
Have to figure out the encoder scale, that is easy, then try to figure out the correct directions, this is tricky as last night i did change the encoder direction and the Z axis moved over 70mm till i disabled the drives!
Not smart enabling those manually, 1.5KW motors on ballscrews can do a lot of damage.
If i get the chance, i will wire enables to Mesa 7i77 or 7i84 and do some tuning.
Also, the drives have switches labeled P, 0, V, pretty sure i have to set those to V now, they are in the P possition. Guessing those are for Position and Velocity mode....
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3 years 10 months ago #259005
by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic Mazak Micro Slant 15 Retrofit
No, this certainly seems like a situation where you want an f-error to turn things off. Quickly.Not smart enabling those manually,
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