converting a tos/intos fngj 40

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30 Oct 2024 16:56 #313498 by PCW
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Do you have 5V and field power on the 7I77

(four yellow LEDs and one red LED illuminated on the 7I77)

Also posting your hal/ini files may help

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06 Nov 2024 15:20 #313915 by FPM
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looks like i haven't flashed the 7c81 correctly, now it seems to work.
PCW suggested to connect the analog out and ground to the differential input J2  1,2. I have now found some interesting info online about the drive. I am interpreting this like that: i will connect the analog out to one of the diffential inputs and the ground to the Pin J1 4 or 9. Is this correct or should I connect the ground to the other diff input too?
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06 Nov 2024 15:53 #313919 by PCW
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7I77 AOUT --> Pin1  (IN+)
7I77 AGND --> Pin2 (IN-)
7I77 AGND  --> Pin9 (common)
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06 Nov 2024 16:16 - 06 Nov 2024 16:19 #313923 by FPM
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In the Ini File I have set the encoder scale, they seem to work correctly. But I can't figure out where i need to set the ratio to the motor (for example 5mm Ballscrew+ 1to2 belt). The manual specifies it for steppers, but not for servos
, OUTPUT_SCALE seems to be something different. I seems logical that a current mode amp setup does not need it but I don't know.
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06 Nov 2024 17:04 - 06 Nov 2024 17:38 #313926 by PCW
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if that's a 2 to 1 encoder to ballscrew ratio. the encoder scale would be

encoder counts/turn * 2 / 5

where encoder counts are PPR*4

If these are torque mode drives (no tachometer feedback) the output scale can be left as-is

if these are velocity mode drives with tachometer feedback, it's helpful to set the OUTPUT_SCALE
to mm/s at 10V (full scale) so the PID values are normalized (and FF1 is 1.0)
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06 Nov 2024 17:26 #313928 by FPM
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They do have tacho feedback. But they don't seem to be velocity mode drives, is that correct?

 
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06 Nov 2024 17:39 #313930 by PCW
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If they have tachometer feedback, they are velocity mode drives.
 (a velocity mode drive is a torque mode drive with local velocity feedback)
 

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06 Nov 2024 19:12 #313937 by FPM
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Thank you very much PCW, you are helping me a lot with this project.

Ok, so if I understood this correctly, to calculate the output_scale, I need the rpm the motor makes at 10V input signal and from that calculate the linear velocity, but since i cant find anything like that in the specs, I guess i need to measure it?

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06 Nov 2024 20:23 - 06 Nov 2024 20:25 #313951 by PCW
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Its not the RPM you need but rather the linear mm/s velocity at 10V
If you have your encoder scale set correctly (check first) you can
measure this at the encoder velocity pin (it should read in mm/s
if scaled properly)

Edit, I miss-understood, yes, measuring the RPM if you have a way
to do this without LinuxCNC should work as well
 
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23 Nov 2024 13:27 #315102 by FPM
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Pin8 of the servo driver is like written in pinout a inhibit pin. So this should be connected to the mesa enable+ pin and enable- pin to GND. The Manual i ve attached says Pin 8 can sink about 200mA but this has nothing to do with how much it draws. So the 50mA of the enable switch should be fine right?

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