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10 Feb 2013 19:47 #29856 by emcPT

How does the drive accept position information when it has encoder feedback?


From the inverter manual, using a train pulse, so this may act like a servo. For example to maintain a determined speed I would have to continue to feed a position constantly far away from the current position. Does Linuxcnc have this built in? This is very similar to have a servo motor acting as a spindle motor.

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11 Feb 2013 02:10 #29867 by BigJohnT


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the Add File function is broken until we can get Kunea and Joomula updated...

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11 Feb 2013 02:15 - 11 Feb 2013 02:21 #29869 by andypugh

From the inverter manual, using a train pulse, so this may act like a servo. For example to maintain a determined speed I would have to continue to feed a position constantly far away from the current position. Does Linuxcnc have this built in?

Yes, it can be done, but possibly not easily in combination with analogue voltage control for the axis servos.
(It's not a LinuxCNC problem, but you would need an unusual combination of interface hardware)

I would suggest not getting the in-drive position control hardware yet, and seeing how LinuxCNC-only control works first.
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11 Feb 2013 03:56 #29871 by emcPT
Ok. I will follow your recommendation and wait for the VFD to arrive and set up linuxcnc and the mesa hardware to control only the spindle with the encoder connected directly to the mesa cards.
I will need some guidance then, but lets see what can I achieve looking on the documentation. People on my company don't look to this project as something that can be done, but I convinced my "boss" to let me try and to give me some € to spend. Lets see.

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11 Feb 2013 05:44 #29876 by andypugh

People on my company don't look to this project as something that can be done, but I convinced my "boss" to let me try and to give me some € to spend. Lets see.

They are wrong, you are right :-)
I isn't going to be simple, but you will learn a lot on the way.

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16 Feb 2013 03:33 #30143 by emcPT
Ok, I have set a PC with a D2700 and a mesa card 5i20.
I have also run pncconfig and set up things to the best of my knowledge. I did not set up and I/O signals except the ones for the servos (X,Z,A and spindle).
I do not have any servo or any I/O signals hardwired.

Now when starting linuxcnc it will not start and the relevant (the first error) debug message is:

Can not find -sec MOT -var MOT -num 1
and a few more others, all that start with "Can not find ..."

This is probably due to a bad configuration on the pncconfig, but this is almost alien language.
My question for today would be what would be the most "clean" config that I can make just to have a spindle, because I would like to start only by having a spindle working.

A few pictures of the mesa hardware installed are attached. There was suppose to be any leds on the 7i37 ?
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16 Feb 2013 03:39 #30144 by andypugh

Can not find -sec MOT -var MOT -num 1
and a few more others, all that start with "Can not find …

What can't it find? That's the critical bit ;-)

Can you post the HAL file and the error log (dmesg)

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16 Feb 2013 03:40 #30145 by PCW
There are no LEDS on the 7I37

You will probably have to post the full error message (and maybe dmesg log) to
debug this

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16 Feb 2013 03:45 #30146 by BigJohnT
Can you attach the entire error message?

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16 Feb 2013 04:07 - 16 Feb 2013 04:13 #30149 by PCW
Often everything you need to know is in the kernel messages. Heres how to capture:

in a terminal window type:
sudo dmesg --clear

then start linuxcnc
when linuxcnc aborts, type

dmesg > errorlog.txt

and upload errorlog.txt to the forum
Last edit: 16 Feb 2013 04:13 by PCW.

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