MonoKrom - QtPyVCP GUI for PlasmaC and Mill

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27 Sep 2020 20:55 - 27 Sep 2020 20:57 #184047 by pinder

Just a little request.
Make monokrom in capitals
MONOKROM
cheers
Pinder

To late, i tend to disagree on this as all caps is considered screaming on the internet.
But it has already been decided so i will shut up now ! :)


I agree Tommy, but the man has done such a nice job with the rest of the GUI, we have to let him have it his way ;)

I did try MonoKrom, which I think looks best and might help people pronounce it correctly...

thankyou Kurt
I like that.
if others agree make it the final.
Cheers,
Pinder
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27 Sep 2020 21:09 #184053 by tommylight

I agree Tommy, but the man has done such a nice job with the rest of the GUI, we have to let him have it his way ;)

When you put it that way, i wonder what was i on about? :)
I agree, he has done a great job, so i am all for leaving the name in all caps.
This has gone from a drawing to reality so fast thanks to you all that i wonder what would Brenda think if she saw this as i did try to explain this exact thing to her but she insisted on drama and ended up killing a very nice project.
Ahhh, old times ! :)
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27 Sep 2020 21:11 - 27 Sep 2020 21:12 #184055 by KCJ
I was hopping we could leave Brenda out of this, but it was inevitable :laugh:
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27 Sep 2020 21:16 #184058 by tommylight

I was hopping we could leave Brenda out of this, but it was inevitable :laugh:

LOL

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27 Sep 2020 21:28 #184060 by rodw
So some feedback.

The Cut parameters drop down needs to display the material name, not just the number.

I Know you want to keep true to a monokrom screen but when I looked at best practice for HMI controls, it said that colour and other features should be used to draw the eye to a problem. So if it were possible, I would like to suggest that a section of the screen be allowed one different colour combination to highlight problems and errors. My press brake has one single status line that turns red when in an error state (estop, on limit etc) is present. I would suggest something similar but for this GUI, I think red background with white text would draw the eye very effectively. It would be great if all the annoying popups that Linuxcnc raises on errors could be captured and constrained to a single fixed area of the screen.

I'm not sure if linuxcnc can be tamed in this way.

And yes I agree that its amazing whats been done so quickly and it just shows how powerful group projects become.
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27 Sep 2020 21:32 #184061 by AgentWD40
Can we get a cool little animated paper clip to bounce around the screen and periodically offer help and tips and tricks?! :laugh:
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27 Sep 2020 21:32 #184062 by KCJ

Sorry I'm not able to download this and see for myself before I ask.. Do the buttons have a different color when pressed? Im just thinking about mashing a touchscreen with fat fingers, it might be nice for the + and - buttons to flash the control green and red respectively when pressing the "kerf width" control for example.

We can definitely make that an option. I will make the icons in the spinbox buttons shift a few pixels when pressed, which gives some feedback.

If you press and hold + or - will the number cycle up or down as long as you hold or does it only increment once per tap? I assume that holding wouldn't be practical for some controls. What's the increment value? Will the increment value be end user adjustable in a config?

The numbers will increment up, based on where the cursor is in the number. It works pretty well. In the future it would be nice to have the MPG increment the number in any spinbox that was highlighted.

Finally, will there be room for me to add my own buttons somewhere? At least a couple on the main screen?

I am all about customizability (is that a word?). Everything that looks like a simple frame in the VCP is actually a special TabWidget that can have custom tabs added very easily without having to change anything in the main VCP code. So you can add your buttons just about wherever you like, while still keeping the clean look!

Cheers,
Kurt
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27 Sep 2020 21:42 #184063 by snowgoer540
I'm a little late to the party here. I like the feel of the GUI and where it is headed! I had made a crude mockup of one myself back in March, but I don't have the skill to bring it to life without years of study (as you said :) ). Keep up the good work.

I have some unsolicited feedback and suggestions if you'd like them:

1. The first thing I noticed is the Breakaway status is missing from the Main page.
2. The THC panel has things in it that have really nothing to do with the THC.
3. Consider having all of the "File" options on their own tab, this will free up a lot of room.
4. I agree, there is a need for custom buttons on the main tab. A lot of us use that a lot.
5. I saw you left the Hypertherm Comms off of the config tab. Do you have a plan for those? As a hypertherm user, I need them :)
6. The rapid, feed, and jog sliders are a bit large, any thing we could do to shrink them?
7. Any chance we could work the time on to the main page? If we are going to load this full screen on touch monitors, seeing what time it is is really useful :laugh:
8. Can the "Alarm" tab, or really any of them blink when there is something that requires your attention there?
9. For cut recovery, there are a few directional arrows missing (diagonal).
10. I really like the colored G-Code.

I attached a screenshot of the mockup I made from March, so that if for no other reason, you could maybe derive something useful, inspiration maybe (if necessary lol) out of it. If not, that's ok too! Some of the layout I would do different, as there are now features that there were not back then. For example, the OHMIC and THC wouldnt have to take up so much room.

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27 Sep 2020 21:43 - 27 Sep 2020 22:01 #184064 by pinder

The Cut parameters drop down needs to display the material name, not just the number.

thats not a numer, it can be anything.

I Know you want to keep true to a monokrom screen but when I looked at best practice for HMI controls, it said that colour and other features should be used to draw the eye to a problem. So if it were possible, I would like to suggest that a section of the screen be allowed one different colour combination to highlight problems and errors. My press brake has one single status line that turns red when in an error state (estop, on limit etc) is present. I would suggest something similar but for this GUI, I think red background with white text would draw the eye very effectively. It would be great if all the annoying popups that Linuxcnc raises on errors could be captured and constrained to a single fixed area of the screen.
I'm not sure if linuxcnc can be tamed in this way.

Linuxcnc is open-source so is MonoKrom.
I will have to agree with others.
For saving the monochrome experience. I think only errrors and Estop Indicator Can be me made red.. at a specific location.
That location can only arise in Estop and error and replace a widget.
Please, no other color while normal working.

And yes I agree that its amazing whats been done so quickly and it just shows how powerful group projects become.

Thankyou
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27 Sep 2020 21:45 #184065 by KCJ

I Know you want to keep true to a monokrom screen but when I looked at best practice for HMI controls, it said that colour and other features should be used to draw the eye to a problem. So if it were possible, I would like to suggest that a section of the screen be allowed one different colour combination to highlight problems and errors. My press brake has one single status line that turns red when in an error state (estop, on limit etc) is present. I would suggest something similar but for this GUI, I think red background with white text would draw the eye very effectively.

I have this implemented for axis faults. I think it looks ok, and is clearly indicates which axis has faulted.



It would be great if all the annoying popups that Linuxcnc raises on errors could be captured and constrained to a single fixed area of the screen. I'm not sure if linuxcnc can be tamed in this way.

Yes, QtPyVCP already catches and makes the error messages as channels. There is an error messages widgets that records each error with a time stamp, and you can sort and filter error messages based on type. Maybe we can use this, or make something similar that might fit in with the design better.
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