My setup Process confusion

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18 Nov 2020 11:26 #189655 by swalts
Replied by swalts on topic My setup Process confusion
Thank you for the information KCJ.
Step 5 looks simple enough. Great! simple is good.
Step 6 I am talking about locating the part on the table with the drewtronics probe. Best i can figure is that the probe is tool 99. The probe routines in probe basic is the reason for wanting to run it.
I think running the tool setter and the probe in series is not the best way to go due to normally closed nature of the circuits for both. I would need them both active during tool changes. I will look to see if there is a:
#---PROBE-IN-2--- (or something similar).
Also i have to research HAL logic to find out what that is.
Step 7:
YES!! A macro something that says:
a. start program
b. put a tool in machine
c. measure tool, write tool information to tool table
d. start cutting
e. finished roughing take out tool
f. rinse and repeat for each operation
Is there a place where people can find these macros?

Thank you for all the help everyone.

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18 Nov 2020 13:36 #189663 by andypugh
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Much more information than you need to set up the tool length probe is here:
linuxcnc.org/docs/2.8/html/remap/remap.html

If you look in the sample configurations you should find sim/axis/remap/manual-toolchange-with-tool-length-switch.

You can try running that (it won't move any real hardware) and looking at the config details after it has been copied to your configs folder. (it is also here: github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/tree/master...h-tool-length-switch )

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18 Nov 2020 13:41 #189665 by andypugh
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The "magic" here is that an M6 command is diverted to run this G-code subroutine:
github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/blob/master...es/manual_change.ngc

This is using G-code digital outputs to prompt for tool change etc, so there are some HAL connections to copy across too.

It might be sensible to get some practice in first. One G-code file per tool isn't much more work than a multi-tool programme if you have to change by hand. And it's easier to re-run part of the process if something goes wrong.

(I have fixed-length tools so don't need to re touch-off and _still_ generally run one G-code file per tool)

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23 Nov 2020 00:45 #190090 by swalts
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Thank you all for helping me out so far.

It would seem that my troubles and woes have just begun.
So far I am able to log into linuxcnc and update it. other than that. Wget command does not work. I am unable to add repositories in terminal or synaptic. My PCIe-ethernet card is not being recognized by the OS. I am unable to install something network manager-gnome.

Ah and I flung a tiny jumper from the mesa card across the garage.

In a nutshell it seems that i am locked out of everything I think I need to do. I think I am pretty stuck.
I have no problems wiping it and starting over if that needs to happen.
Also there seems to be something going around about using an alternate OS and putting -rt- on it.

If anyone has any recommendations, I am all ears.

Thank you all for your time.

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23 Nov 2020 13:53 #190114 by andypugh
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So far I am able to log into linuxcnc and update it. other than that. Wget command does not work. I am unable to add repositories in terminal or synaptic. My PCIe-ethernet card is not being recognized by the OS. I am unable to install something network manager-gnome.


Did you start from a LiveCD installation?


Ah and I flung a tiny jumper from the mesa card across the garage.


Ever wondered why they call them "jumpers"?


In a nutshell it seems that i am locked out of everything I think I need to do. I think I am pretty stuck.
I have no problems wiping it and starting over if that needs to happen.


Starting with a fresh install from the LinuxCNC live-CD would at least put you in a known state.

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23 Nov 2020 14:26 #190117 by swalts
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Hey Andypugh,

I did not make a cd. I made a USB with Rufus from the 2.8 download on the linuxcnc website. The download is the current recommended from website.

I was wondering how they got their name. Haha.

Is it wise to try installing using mint linux?

Or should I be able use the terminal to get repositories and applications?

Do most people go through this fire when trying to make their machines work, I wonder.

Unless I hear back I will start a fresh install this evening after work.

Thanks for helping me out.

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23 Nov 2020 14:36 #190119 by andypugh
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I did not make a cd. I made a USB with Rufus from the 2.8 download on the linuxcnc website. The download is the current recommended from website.


Well, that should have worked, and should be a working system.

Is it wise to try installing using mint linux?


It should work, but might need a bit more work. You should only need to install an OS then install the kernel package and the LinuxCNC package, and it should all work.

Or should I be able use the terminal to get repositories and applications?


Terminal or package manager should both work. But the terminal will probably need "sudo".

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24 Nov 2020 00:36 #190171 by swalts
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Let the strangeness continue!!!

This is so weird.
I reinstalled linuxcnc 2.8. same one. Now it seems that my terminal are working.
Except the ls-utils. I had to install them.
followed the instructions for setting up the network manager and removing WICD network manager.
The onboard NIC works well (internet). The PCI-e card (for the mesa board) is shown when I use lspci -vv, both cards are in fact.

Here is the rub. The network manager does not see the PCIe card at all. So I have no way to tell it about the static IP i want to use.

i am not sure what is going on with this.
My confusion is great, great confustion, meat combustion...

Thanks for all the help!

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24 Nov 2020 00:47 #190173 by andypugh
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Does it show up with

ip link

at the command prompt?

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24 Nov 2020 00:50 #190175 by andypugh
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Also, a suggestion from PCW is to
" drop the disfunctional wicd in favor of
netmanager"

So see if installing "netmanager" helps. (I think that wicd is mainly for WiFi. well, at least the name is)

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