Developments on my Home built 5C CNC Lathe - Polar interp. and Live tooling

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2 years 10 months ago #288404 by COFHAL
His work is very interesting, especially having been able to intelligently resolve everything related to the change of coordinates despite not yet being implemented in LCN, and his perseverance to carry out his project despite the costs. Could you share the 3D CAD file of the ATC designed by you, I think it's excellent how you described it, especially regarding everything related to the live tool, when using a BLDC RC motor, which, to me, would never have occurred to me even though I use them a lot in Drones and CABLECAM. Finally I have a question: Why do I implement its own ATC component, if the CAROUSEL component authored by ANDY PUGH already existed?

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2 years 10 months ago #288407 by COFHAL
Your contributions to this thread are very interesting. You say you have paid for the design of a postprocessor for F360 to manage the C axis and you make it available to anyone who may be interested in using it, which seems very commendable to me. Could you then share it with me? Even if you had to contribute some money to obtain it.

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2 years 10 months ago #288409 by NoJo
WRT the ATC - If I recall, the basic carousel comp requires the ATC hardware to be able to rotate the carousel, past the tool locate point, a pawn then engages and the carousel is then rotated backwards to lock against the pawl ( EMCO style..)
If you study my ATC you will see it uses a hirth coupling and compressed air to disengage the coupler, a stepper to rotate to the next tool, with opto-sensing of tool position, and then air release to lock using compression spring discs. Also, the ATC has a live spindle as a tool select - none of this is available in the basic carousel comp - if you want fancy, you have to pay in pain..I paid a lot, nearly giving up many times...

I would not have succeeded if it were not for a LOT of help from Andy, Aciera and
DGarrett, and my good Wife, a really good software Guru.

Re the F360 processor - I think you have me confused with someone else - I never paid for F360 anything - I don't use F360, I dislike the marketing model and its Pro price, esp for hobby use...
I use Rhinocad-7 and Rhinocam - the latter cannot do Mill/turn, ie, no C axis capability in lathe CAM. For this lathe I use eCam - an Italian fellow's creation for Mill and Lathe, with a very usable C axis mode - it is very good, free on weekends, and two or three hundred Euro to buy.

I can share the 3D cad files for the lathe/ATC, etc, but it is all Rhinocad format (.3dm) - I can convert to other standards, but that always creates issues...

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2 years 10 months ago #288411 by tommylight

WRT the ATC - If I recall, the basic carousel comp requires the ATC hardware to be able to rotate the carousel, past the tool locate point, a pawn then engages and the carousel is then rotated backwards to lock against the pawl ( EMCO style..)
Carousel does not require that, but it can do that.
Most ATC's do not require reversing, none that i worked on did.
Carousel is made by Andy to suit most use cases, and from what i recall it can do a lot, but having included everything for every use case possible is well impossible.
Mental note, i have to make some time to give Carousel a run on my Mazak...

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2 years 10 months ago #288456 by spumco

Your contributions to this thread are very interesting. You say you have paid for the design of a postprocessor for F360 to manage the C axis and you make it available to anyone who may be interested in using it, which seems very commendable to me. Could you then share it with me? Even if you had to contribute some money to obtain it
 
That was me.  I paid for a F360 PP for use with Emco's WinPC version of Fanuc 21TB.  It includes a bar-puller macro, as well as radial/axial live tool functions.  Milling/drilling is output using XZC moves and does not require G12.1 polar interpolation in the controller, although the Emco does, in fact, have G12.1 available.

The person who wrote the PP has gone missing.  Despite my best efforts, I've not been able to contact him since before covid and I fear the worst.

At this point I don't feel like there are any copyright or ethical issues and I'm the sole owner of the PP - and can share it with LCNC community.

My hope is that someone more skilled than me can modify the PP for use with LCNC.
The following user(s) said Thank You: COFHAL

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2 years 10 months ago #288462 by NoJo
Sorry re the confusion - As I had started this topic and COHAL's post did not address anyone specific ( that I can see) , I thought it was meant for me..

I wonder how that PP works in milling - it must do all the polar interp itself and output thousands of small moves to all the axis to follow a polar path in cartesian fashion. How is the PP written? Do you have source code?

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