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04 Nov 2015 01:54 - 04 Nov 2015 01:55 #64730 by bkt
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ferror and min-ferror to 5000000 ...





NOTE PRESS JOG BUTTON BUT NOTHING CHANGE .... no analog.2 change, no other etc etc.....

but in pncconfig I can move the motor .... analogue out runs and no fal ...
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04 Nov 2015 02:04 - 04 Nov 2015 02:05 #64731 by PCW
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What are your tuning parameters?
If P is 0 this is the expected behaviour

(pncconf will not have faults because its tests are open loop so there _is_ no following error)
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04 Nov 2015 02:54 #64734 by bkt
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(pncconf will not have faults because its tests are open loop so there _is_ no following error)

..... this is clear ...

If P is 0 this is the expected behaviour

ok ... but with P = 10, P=50, P=100, P=1000 is the same ....

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04 Nov 2015 03:18 #64735 by PCW
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This means you probably have to trace what's happening in your hal file

including

PID output
PID command input
PID feedback input
PID enable

etc

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04 Nov 2015 19:54 #64743 by bkt
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I make a new conf ... than I restart .... all ok .... I try a tuning quite good .... but some things not understand (and I have follw error) ... add alscope image ... someone could teach me what 's wrong with this graph ? .... Work already encoder reversed ...




The motor run at desired vel .... and move to desired position .... (with some error because ferror is set to hight number for test the system)

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giorgio
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04 Nov 2015 20:31 #64744 by bkt
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@ PCW step that I can have a maximum rate of 5 axes with 7i77 all of the same setting ?

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04 Nov 2015 20:58 #64745 by andypugh
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The graph looks like it does because you are in roll-mode with the trigger point in the middle.

In roll-mode the data slides out from the trigger point to the left.
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05 Nov 2015 01:57 - 05 Nov 2015 02:03 #64760 by bkt
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@ andyPugh Thanks ... it's clear these ... but I have these situation:

jog
the motor moves in the desired direction and at the desired speed
The motor stops when the desired position

automatically
engine " follows " the programmed path without much accuracy (they are testing and I set a high ferror )
It stops at the end of the program cycle in the wrong position , but very slowly back to the correct position when the program is now completed at least 1 minute

This default behavior qualceh good soul knows me indicate what is the symptom ? (is possible from motitor see anythings? these situation suggest to control somethings??)

My scale encoder and pid.... I set only P and I both drive on which LCNC , and a very low value ( 0.02 % ) of FF1 on LCNC and feedfoward percentage on the drive ......
I 250 ( * 4 ) pulses per revolution of LCNC and 2500 ( * 4 ) on the drive .... as I said the drive provides a function to reduce the pulses per revolution to control .... 1000rpm max speed reducer 10/1 ( 10 engine rpm = 1 turn led ) encoder ratio 27.7778 my units are degrees 1 tour conducted = 360 ° = 3600 ° engine

@PCW .... or other good soul man :lol: :lol: .... 7i77 have base frequency for PWM = 20Khz .....it is possible to have 20Kh of refresh rate signal of each one of the six axes simultaneously ?


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giorgio
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05 Nov 2015 03:23 #64765 by PCW
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Are you sure the drives are set-up for velocity mode?

PWM frequency is meaningless (not used by 7I77)

Most of your tuning is done with FF1 (assuming your drives are in velocity mode)
and then P is increased until it becomes unstable than backed off about 50%

FF1 = 1.0 if you set the analog output scale properly = machine units per second
(degrees per second at 10V for rotary axis) As the tutorial suggests, too much FF1
makes the position lead the command, while too little make the position lag the command

Unless you have extreme accuracy requirements (a coulple um),
A 1 KHz update rate is fine for velocity mode servos
(the drives themselves close the velocity loop at a much higher rate)
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05 Nov 2015 03:40 - 05 Nov 2015 03:48 #64767 by bkt
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That is, when I select internal 5i25 config and 7i77x2 with one 7I77,
as soon as I press the accept changes button, a 7I77 I/O and a 7I77 PWM tab appear
the 7I77 I/O tab has the TB7 and TB8 I/O and the 7I77 PWM tab has the TB5 I/O:


...your response to other my post .... so I call analog output PWM .... in pncconfig when I choose In TB5 pwm signal fro "A axis" (for example) I not have other choice only pwm .... I have not investigated the possibility of setting PWM output differently on TB5 as I see no other choices on PNCCONFIG on ubuntu 10.04 .... show me how to select your own screen on an analog output PNCCONFIG properly .... I would like to pncconfig understand if my version has broken something else .... I felt that installed with English worked well ....

The better chice is control .hal file ....
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