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26 Jan 2020 19:57 #155841 by andypugh
There is some work ongoing to move tp Python3. But it's likely to be a long and hard transition due to the availability (and unavailability) of some libraries.

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26 Jan 2020 20:05 #155842 by twoflowers
Ok, but the linixcnc package from repository does not have this dependency, so I think it might just be some leftover in thze control file.

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05 Feb 2020 13:07 #156585 by andypugh
Do you have any feel for if the dependency is real?

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05 Feb 2020 13:32 #156590 by twoflowers
I don't think it is real. I have a RPi3+ running devuan beowulf + RT kernel and linuxcnc 2.8 from git and I have dxf2gcode working on it. But the installation is ~ 6 months old.

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12 Feb 2020 10:46 #157154 by BeagleBrainz
Linux Mint 19.2
Installed RTAI packages as per git page
Tried designer -qt=5
Got this:
Went thru the same process I did when installing 2.9 with a RT kernel & uspace packages for my custom DVD and all is good.
Have I missed a package or just a FU on my part.
Sorry to be a pain, mostly I can suss most issues out.
2020-02-12 21:29:51,002 - QtDesigner - INFO - Logging to "/home/rmurphy/qtdesigner.log"
2020-02-12 21:29:51,003 - QtDesigner.QTVCP.QT_ISTAT - WARNING - INI Parcing Error, No DEFAULT_LINEAR_VELOCITY Entry in DISPLAY, Using: 1
2020-02-12 21:29:51,004 - QtDesigner.QTVCP.QT_ISTAT - WARNING - INI Parcing Error, No MIN_LINEAR_VELOCITY Entry in DISPLAY, Using: 1
2020-02-12 21:29:51,004 - QtDesigner.QTVCP.QT_ISTAT - WARNING - INI Parcing Error, No MAX_LINEAR_VELOCITY Entry in DISPLAY, Using: 5
2020-02-12 21:29:51,004 - QtDesigner.QTVCP.QT_ISTAT - WARNING - INI Parcing Error, No DEFAULT_ANGULAR_VELOCITY Entry in DISPLAY, Using: 6
2020-02-12 21:29:51,004 - QtDesigner.QTVCP.QT_ISTAT - WARNING - INI Parcing Error, No MIN_ABGULAR_VELOCITY Entry in DISPLAY, Using: 1
2020-02-12 21:29:51,004 - QtDesigner.QTVCP.QT_ISTAT - WARNING - INI Parcing Error, No MAX_ANGULAR_VELOCITY Entry in DISPLAY, Using: 60
2020-02-12 21:29:51,004 - QtDesigner.QTVCP.QT_ISTAT - WARNING - INI Parcing Error, No DEFAULT_SPINDLE_SPEED Entry in DISPLAY, Using: 200
2020-02-12 21:29:51,004 - QtDesigner.QTVCP.QT_ISTAT - WARNING - INI Parcing Error, No MAX_SPINDLE_OVERRIDE Entry in DISPLAY, Using: 1
2020-02-12 21:29:51,005 - QtDesigner.QTVCP.QT_ISTAT - WARNING - INI Parcing Error, No MIN_SPINDLE_OVERRIDE Entry in DISPLAY, Using: 0.5
2020-02-12 21:29:51,005 - QtDesigner.QTVCP.QT_ISTAT - WARNING - INI Parcing Error, No MAX_FEED_OVERRIDE Entry in DISPLAY, Using: 1.5
2020-02-12 21:29:51,005 - QtDesigner.QTVCP.QT_ISTAT - WARNING - INI Parcing Error, No MAX_VELOCITY Entry in AXIS_X, Using: 5
2020-02-12 21:29:51,005 - QtDesigner.QTVCP.QT_ISTAT - WARNING - INI Parcing Error, No MAX_LINEAR_VELOCITY Entry in TRAJ, Using: 5
2020-02-12 21:29:51,005 - QtDesigner.QTVCP.QT_ISTAT - WARNING - INI Parcing Error, No TOOL_TABLE Entry in EMCIO, Using: None
2020-02-12 21:29:51,963 - QtDesigner.QTVCP.WIDGETS.MACRO_WIDGET - DEBUG - Path: None is not valid.
2020-02-12 21:29:51,963 - QtDesigner.QTVCP.WIDGETS.MACRO_WIDGET - DEBUG - Macros Found: None
2020-02-12 21:29:52,262 - QtDesigner.QTVCP.WIDGETS.MACRO_WIDGET - DEBUG - Path: None is not valid.
2020-02-12 21:29:52,263 - QtDesigner.QTVCP.WIDGETS.MACRO_WIDGET - DEBUG - Macros Found: None

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19 Feb 2020 23:51 #157907 by twoflowers
Some news on beowulf: Looks like "libboost-python1.62.0" is a real dependency for the linuxcnc-2.8 package. After I manually copied /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libboost_python-py27.so.1.62.0 to the machine, linuxcnc worked like expected. "python-vte" is definitly not needed, it's replaced by git1.2-vte on beowulf.

It's a pitty, the html documentation is not included.

I tried to build linuxcnc from git myself today, but the resulting binary was not stable. Don't know what I've missed.

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06 Mar 2020 01:12 #159294 by oddwick
i just installed the rtai kernel and packages and im blown away with the numbers that im getting! like seriously stupid numbers. i never thought that i could get 3 digit latency and my latency histogram looks like a single straight line even with 10 glxgears running!!! completely rock solid in performance, thank you devs!

there are a few issues i ran into during and after the process. first off, andy, there are some typos on the instructions on your git page, no big deal, but copy/paste fails when installing. also it might be good to make a note that you also have to log out after installing linuxcnc because i kept getting a shmem error and could only run as root/sudo until i logged in and out. then it all worked ok(ish)

some of the issues i have ran into and i dont know if they are bugs or configurations that i need to change. it is a fresh install of stretch using the 2.7 live cd and rtai kernel and packages. aside from updating packages, the only other packages installed are ssh, samba, and pciutils. the box is an athlon x64 dual core, cpu isolated, ssd, 4gb ram an older radeon card. i dont remember which and i cant remember if there was onboard graphics. the parallel card was oddly enough not recognized with the rt kernel, but works just peachy with rtai. hmmm, dunno.

when booting, when it does the resolution switch, instead i get a black screen all the way until the desktop comes up. not a dealbreaker, but i get paranoid when screen shows nothing.

when starting linuxcnc, about 3 out of 4 times, it crashes with an error about waiting for component "inihal" to become available, and it fails with a timeout. sometimes it will start ok 2-3 times in a row, and then fail half a dozen times.

the worst problem right now tho is jerky motion. it is something with continuos keyboard jogging. when using on screen buttons to jog (im using stock axis) or running a program, machine runs smooth as silk. but whenever i jog using the keyboard, i get stuttered jerky motion. it is as if i were trying to jog using morse code. it shakes the entire machine and stand, but im not losing steps. so far i have tried using a ps2 keyboard, slowing down and speeding up base period, and changing jog speed. it is all axes and and all speeds. although it didnt present right away. all was good until yesterday and that is when started acting up. at first i thought i had another bad cable, but i eliminated that and just the fact that i can jog with the screen, but not keyboard.

anybody, any thoughts?

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06 Mar 2020 01:49 #159295 by BeagleBrainz
Not to hi-jack this thread, but these maybe be worth trying, one uses the XFCE desktop, the other MATE desktop. Linuxcnc has been

forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc...xcnc?start=30#157796

forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc...xcnc?start=30#157796

If all goes well, if you do try, I'd like to do an update, but I haven't received much feedback on these ones.

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06 Mar 2020 10:02 #159307 by tommylight
I can confirm the jerky motion when jogging using keyboard.
This is with the RTAI kernel and Linuxcnc 2.8 downloaded from linuxcnc.org/temp.
The machine is running without any issues otherwise and the latency is perfect, at 20000 base period there are no excursions, ever. Even using THCAD300 with 1/32 works properly, tested up to 180V, never misses counts.

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06 Mar 2020 11:48 #159320 by BeagleBrainz
Tommy do these issues manifest themselves on the Mint MATE & XFCE ISOs ?

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