THCAD Environmental Fluctuations

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24 Nov 2020 01:25 #190181 by rodw

Rod, What do you think of this filter, www.jaycar.com.au/240v-ac-emi-filter/p/MS4001.

No need for that, you have one in the UPS, even the cheap ones do have one.


Understood, But if there is a source of noise, it could be the UPS....

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24 Nov 2020 09:31 #190195 by tommylight
I exlusively used APC UPS's, so never had issues with them, even when one of them decided to go up in smoke, the PC's connected to it were unharmed.
Used hundreds of them, still have some collecting dust in the shop and some that i gutted for the transformers.
I would change the power supply for the THCAD as the first thing, new power supplies use cheap electrolytic capacitors that fail miserably.
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24 Nov 2020 09:35 #190196 by thefabricator03
Yeah I will try a new power supply for the THCAD. I have been using this to power my THCAD, www.jaycar.com.au/dc-to-dc-step-down-vol...rter-module/p/AA0236

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24 Nov 2020 09:39 #190197 by rodw
I think its premature to blame the THCAD at this stage. It might just be reporting what it sees.

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24 Nov 2020 09:40 - 25 Nov 2020 20:06 #190198 by thefabricator03
Yeah thats true, Maybe its an issue with the plasma unit. I will do some testing.
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29 Nov 2020 14:10 #190604 by dvn4life1972
I'm not sure where 40 deg C lies on the real temperature scale (F), but all last summer here in Texas where it regularly is 100F + my THCAD gave zero issues. I second the idea that it may be the power supply.

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27 Jan 2021 06:10 #196703 by thefabricator03
Ok I did a bit more testing on this issue as its happening every time we get a really warm day,

Today when the issue happened I unplugged the Hypertherm CPC port and the voltage still fluctuated. I put a multi meter on the THCAD output and measured a steady voltage that did not fluctuate.

I took this video,


Does anyone else have any ideas of what I could try next to troubleshoot the issue?

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27 Jan 2021 07:14 #196704 by rodw
Would you like me to lend you a THCAD so you can test by swapping out?
Send me an email and I can express it down tomorrow with TNT.
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27 Jan 2021 07:35 #196706 by rodw

I put a multi meter on the THCAD output and measured a steady voltage that did not fluctuate.


That test is not really helpful. The THCAD outputs a frequency which is probably seen like a PWM voltage with a normal analog voltage meter. If you have a frequency counter on your multimeter, it would show the frequency but its probably fairly heavily damped. But there is no real need becasue the encoder velocity in halshow tells the story. Its jumping all over the place. It should be fluctuating around your zero volt calibration frequency (the Plasmac Offset). Thats usually around 3800 and that is where I saw it (some of the time).

I think by disconnecting the CPC port, I think you have confirmed that the fault lies in the frequency output part on the THCAD. The whole idea of using a frequency is that its more immune to electrical noise so its quite strange.

I'm not understanding your circuit. From memory your THCAD is in your control panel so you should be able to power the THCAD from one of the 5 volt signals on the 7i76e provided for that purpose.
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27 Jan 2021 17:27 #196786 by PCW
Yes, normally you would supply the THCAD's 5V from the 7I76Es encoder connector
Any other source would compromise the noise immunity somewhat.

The errors could reflect a bad THCAD or perhaps an interface issue.

Is the 7I76E encoder input jumpered for differential mode and both
THCAD F0 and /F0 connected to the 7I76Es A and /A inputs and THCAD
GND connected to encoder ground?

Ideally:

THCAD         7I76E ENC
+5     -->     +5
FOUT+  -->     ENCA
FOUT-  -->     /ENCA
GND    -->     GND
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