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26 May 2020 23:58 #169024 by tommylight
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phillc54 wrote:

tommylight wrote:

phillc54 wrote: The Torch On should behave exactly the same as the trigger on the hand torch.

Twice i had plasma cutters that would wait longer when fired from the CPC port than from the torch trigger. One of them, an older Hypertherm wait about 3 to 4 seconds when triggered from the PC. Strange, but must be they use different timers as the PC part must be isolated from everything.
All other ones i used do the same wait regardless from where they are triggered.

That certainly doesn't make things easy. :(

That does not affect anything, the machines will not move without receiving the ARCOK signal, just the wait time is a bit longer.
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27 May 2020 14:26 #169131 by jay1st
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motal2004 wrote: jay1st I am aware that a plasma machine does not have to be HF to be a pilot arc. I will be the first to admit I should have not pinched pennies when I bought my plasma machine. Reading the link you provided it appears l have a very similar problem to what you had, but correct me if I am wrong your machine is a HF type right ? As I do not have a HF type plasma machine, your approach does not apply. I could be wrong wrong though.


Nope, it can be pilot arc without HF.
There is still a ground wire coming back to the generator, and if the torch keeps firing over a gap without any metal around then it's a pilot arc system llike mine.

So the THCAD will never be able t detect any variation in voltage due to height change as the gap inside the torch never changes thus keeping the voltage more or less constant. See picture attached for the principle of pilotarc

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02 Jun 2020 00:54 - 02 Jun 2020 01:22 #169752 by motal2004
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Alright so after taking a couple days off. I’m back
I started from a very beginning.
Installed a Linux mint 19.2 Linuxcnc Build , pulled from the forum.
I build my working base configuration.
Moved to plasmaC
I build my asxis plasmaC configuration and when inputting required information I selected mode 1.
Next I began the adding of the THCAD lines in the hal file. But also comments out everything pertaining to mode 1 and switch to mode 0. I Homed machine imputes my offset and scale info
Resting voltage is ready zero :)
Opened up imperial_squares.ngc file a
Set my plasma cuttter to 30 amp at 110 ipm
Cutting Voltage was was 93 ish on screen .
Made lots of progress, couple questions
Machine stop after first cut and got “valid arc lost program is pause”
What do I do for that?
Second I’m 1/16 of an inc , 1.5875mm , on the small size off I measure the cut square. Do I go up or down on the axis tunning?
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02 Jun 2020 04:11 #169764 by phillc54
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Have you done some probe tests to confirm the heights are correct?

Could the size difference be due to kerf width?

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02 Jun 2020 14:01 #169805 by motal2004
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I took a quick peak this before leaving for work this morning at My machine torch, it appears it is kicked in just a little bit, I’m thinking that’s where I am loosing my 1/16 in my cuts I will try correcting that tonight.
As far as for probe testing, I did hit the probe test button before my cuts yesterday. This morning I jog the z axis all the way to the bottom, hitting the sheet metals, I jog up 1 inch on screen, measure physically and it’s 1 inch , jogged 2 inches on screen and physically re measure and I’m getting what seems to be consistent accurate measurements when jogging the z axis.
At lunch I’m going to do some re reading the manual again. I might be missing something.
Last think to me it appears that the GUI configuration of axis move slower then gmoccapy. Is that just in my head?

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02 Jun 2020 23:12 #169883 by phillc54
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Axis motion should be the same.

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05 Jun 2020 00:07 #170182 by motal2004
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For imperial_circle ngc or imperial_square.ngc
When I cutting it will cut the first part but when It moves to second cut I get error message of “valid arc lost program is paused”
Any suggestions?

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05 Jun 2020 00:20 #170186 by tommylight
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motal2004 wrote: For imperial_circle ngc or imperial_square.ngc
When I cutting it will cut the first part but when It moves to second cut I get error message of “valid arc lost program is paused”
Any suggestions?

Video, and hal scope trace of arc voltage, what mode are you using ?

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09 Jun 2020 04:14 - 09 Jun 2020 04:18 #170751 by motal2004
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Mode 0
voltage is reading correctly cutting at about 123V
on on my test part i has 7 cuts, 6 circles and the outside cut. i have to hit pause bottom to moved on to the next cut.
I have videos that i'm trying to figure out how to up load. here is a link to them for now,
drive.google.com/drive/folders/1kC6XCTTn...V2GHv8h-?usp=sharing
quality of video is not best , sorry
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09 Jun 2020 04:50 - 09 Jun 2020 04:51 #170752 by phillc54
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Access is denied to the video.

I thought you had a machine with Arc OK out.
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